Comments for Jesus vs. Isa Part 1 at http://islammonitor.org , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://islammonitor.org Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:19:48 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7420 Islam hijacked Both; Judaism and Christianity and in return Muslim "theologians" offer dawah and silly interfaih nonsense. - Dude Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:08:02 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7406 I wonder when Christians will realise that Islam supports their claims but now try to cover it up! Christians should demand that Muslims stop referring to Isa as Jesus because Isa is a killer of Christians and in important ways different to Jesus! His life really has been copied then twisted to suit Islam! Christians need to stop being 'nice' and start challenging Muslim claims. They must show the violence and intolerance of Islam, including the violence right now to all Christians and other groups where there is enoungh Muslims. - felicity Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:01:49 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7404 Even the Muslim Isa is far better than Muhammad. Well. at least it doesn't take much effort to be better than the symbol of islamic perfection. - Rosie Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:21:17 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7397 Geoff I love the idea of the banner the great deciever. The BBC also known in some quarters as British Al Jazerra is dispicable. If they really wanted an alternitive candidate to Armedinajad they could of got Wilders or Ayan Hirshi Ali but that would be politically incorrect. My bet for next years christmas speach is Robert Mgabe or Colonel Quadaffi. - sienna Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:55:23 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7396 This article should be distributed to all so called interfaith groups. Then again, they just want to belive that all's well. - Anon636 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:29:45 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7392 Dear Blue Heeler, as you know, I am not religious but on studying religious text I have a great respect for the Christian Jesus and a deep loathing of Islam and its slaves. The Christian Jesus would be sickened to the depths of his soul by Islam ---and its insane proponents. Dear Geoff, thanks for the quote from Luke etc I know the story of Jesus's birth in the Bible is very different as Mary was reassured and praised but to save space I concentrated more on Islam and its part plagiarised, part distorted tales ---which when you read the Arabic, cannot coverup Christian claims of a virgin birth from 'God' but have become a twisted, frightening experience for Mary who even hid ...The contrast is staggering but the Christian claims shine through! Ditto the crucifixion--the remarkable mistranslation of the word die only when referring to Isa! Of course to refer to the death and resurrection of Jesus/Isa makes Islam look absurd and shows that Mohammad is a grossly inferior being. In part 2 there are many more examples where Mohammad is clearly far below even Islam's Isa!! Dear Wendy such signs merely show the vileness, nastiness, intolerance etc of Islam's followers who obviously don't even know their own text properly! Most of the Islamic world is either illiterate or has limited literacy, particularly women, but in the west, although some gullible easily led individuals convert to Islam after being fed a false view of it, the other side is that some Muslims actually start to read and THINK and when you do that, Islam stinks!! Some have the courage to overcome a lifetime of brainwashing and threats and realise the evil truth of Islam and leave--This requires tremendous personal courage not needed to leave other religions because only Islam threatens death and violence to those who leave!! Often muslims who exit feel lost because Islam dictates every part of life and after such blind slavery it's hard to live as a free person, responsible for your own actions, able to make decisions...I hope all Muslims choose freedom and leave Islam! - Circe Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:14:02 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7391 Thank you Circe for pointing out yet more paradoxes about Islam and the parallel contradictory beliefs about Jesus. The trouble is , there is no one authority about it all, everyone just follows whatever the imam of the hour says. But if any Muslim truly thinks about it, Mohammad has nothing on Jesus. Blue Heeler - Ahmadinejad has a hide saying anything about others following Christ after his blood curdling statements about wiping out Israel - he should worry about the log in his own eye and not about the more in others' eyes. Jesus would certainly not agree with most of the statements he makes, deluded, false and hateful as they are and the opposite of Christ's peace. by the way I have heard from a friend who knows a some networks in Bankstown - a nephew of Sheikh Hilaly has LEFT ISLAM. He has seen the light and seen that Islam is false. Of course, the poor fellow is under police guard. No need to ask why. - Wendy Larkson Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:44:22 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7388 Dont you just love the big banner erected in Nazareth by the religion of Peace? I would like to mount one for them:- "Allah, the Destroyer and Spoiler. The great Deceiver who pretends to be God, but is really Satan! Oh Mohammed, the prophet of Satan who broke the Ten Commandments of God." In conversations with muslims, when I mention the Quranic verses 19:16-21, 21:91 ad 66:12, no one so far disputes that Jesus was of a virgin birth and hence must be "from God". My understanding is that Q19.33 is abrogated by Q4.157, but to abrogate a historical truth is in itself, an absurdity!! As you state, Circe, there are so many NON Christian sources that support the crucifixion. And Jesus himself predicted his death and resurrection many times. The New Testament has over 24,000 source documents to support its claims, whereas the Quran has NONE as Caliph Uthman ordered source material destroyed. Why would anyone destroy source material that supposedly is direct "from God" unless to hide all the anomolies contained therein? The claim that Jesus (and Moses etc) were muslims believing in Islam is NOT supported by archaeological evidence. The terms 'muslim' and 'Islam' are not recorded before Mohammed's time. And the name Isa or Issa does NOT correspond to Jesus. In Hebrew Jesus is Jeshuwa which should translate to Jesuwa in Arabic. So is Jesus NOT the same as Isa in the Quran? Interesting also that Jesus is supposed to return to Earth in Damascus (Islam) whereas in Christianity he will descend to the Mount of Olives, and all the world will see him. Circe, let us hope that your article will cause some muslims to rethink and re-examine the facts! Blue Heeler, The President of Iran giving a message for Christmas is a real hoot! What beautiful irony. - Geoff Dickson Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:31:23 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7387 Circe, Thanks for such a brilliant incisive article. And how good is the timing? I agree with you. Everyone should read Abul Kasem's articles on Allah's ruh/ soul!. 'Clearly this ‘man’ (allah/allah’s ruh or soul-Gabriel?) frightened Maryam who possibly feared rape! That is SO Islamic, isn't it? Compare that to the Bible where Gabriel appears to Mary:- 'Greetings favoured one, the Lord is with you.. do not be afraid, Mary, because you have found favour with God' [Luke 1:28-30] And yet muslims believe Jesus was born under a palm tree, yet Christians believe he was born in Bethlehem, fulfilling prophecy [Micah 5:2] Muslims confuse scripture, and yet Biblical prophecy about Jesus is abumdant in the Bible, starting from the book of Psalms (circa 1,000BC). Muslims believe in the book of Psalms, yet in Psalm 22, the following prophecy is made about Jesus and his crucifixion:- 1) crucifixion (hands and feet pierced) 2) no bones broken (= perfect lamb sacrifice) 3) outer garments shared among soldiers 4) inner vestment gambled for by soldiers And over 700 years before Jesus:- the prophet Isaiah predicted 5) Jesus would be born of a virgin 6) Jesus would be from the line of David 7) Jesus would be from Galilee the prophet Micah predicted 8) Jesus would be born in Bethlehem 9) Jesus origins are from ancient times (not human) the prophet Amos predicted 10) the sun would go down at midday as Jesus is dying on the cross and over 600 years before Jesus:- the prophet Daniel predicted 11) the time when Jesus would enter Jerusalem on a donkey, the Sunday before his crucifixion and over 500 years before Jesus:- the prophet Zechariah predicted 12) Jesus would enter Jerusalem mounted on a donkey 13) Jesus would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver 14) the 30 pieces of silver would be thrown into the potters field (by Judas) 15) Jesus would have his side pierced Muslim arabs claim to be expert mathematicians! I challenge them to work out the statistical probability of one man and only one man (Jesus) who has fulfilled each and every one of these prophesies (and many more). The probability is staggering!! - Geoff Dickson Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:27:35 +0100 http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1913&catid=199&Itemid=64#comment-7386 The beautiful thing about islam and muslims.... you don't have to wait long! [quote]Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stoked criticism on Thursday by delivering a Christmas message on British television, saying if Jesus were alive he would oppose "expansionist powers". Ahmadinejad said in the address on Channel Four that Jesus Christ would oppose "bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers". Britain's Foreign Office condemned the speech, while Israel's ambassador to London called it a "national embarrassment". The Channel Four broadcast is seen as an alternative to the Queen's traditional annual address to the Commonwealth, which aired earlier in the day, and the station had invited Ahmadinejad to speak. "President Ahmadinejad has during his time in office made a series of appalling anti-Semitic statements," a Foreign Office spokeswoman said. "The British media are rightly free to make their own editorial choices, but this invitation will cause offence and bemusement not just at home but amongst friendly countries abroad." The move had already been criticised by some Jewish groups and the Israeli ambassador to London, Ron Prosor, who labelled it a "scandal and a national embarrassment". Ahmadinejad is the most high-profile guest yet on Channel Four's alternative Christmas broadcast, which started in 1993 and has seen Jesse Jackson, Brigitte Bardot and cartoon character Marge Simpson among others take to the airwaves. He began by congratulating Christians and the people of Britain on the anniversary of the birth of Christ, which Christians celebrate on Christmas Day. "If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly he would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers," he said. "If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly he would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over." Speaking in Farsi, Ahmadinejad blamed society's problems on humanity's rejection of religion but predicted Christ would return "with one of the children of the revered Messenger of Islam and will lead the world to love, brotherhood and justice". He ended by saying: "I pray for the New Year to be a year of happiness, prosperity, peace and brotherhood for humanity. I wish you every success and happiness." Explaining the decision to invite Ahmadinejad to speak, Channel Four's head of news and current affairs Dorothy Byrne said: "As the leader of one of the most powerful states in the Middle East, President Ahmadinejad's views are enormously influential. "As we approach a critical time in international relations, we are offering our viewers an insight into an alternative world view." Britain and Iran have had rocky relations for years, particularly over Iran's disputed nuclear program, which it says is for civilian purposes but the West fears could be used to make arms. AFP [/quote] - Blue Heeler Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:45:09 +0100