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Tariq Ramadan lied about Mohammad’s violence to females. Part 2

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Tariq Ramadan made the false claim that Mohammad never hit a woman (King 2010)–ignoring the fact that he hit child bride Aisha hard in the chest.  Tariq also ignores the other acts of ‘domestic’ violence practised and endorsed by Mohammad eg Paedophilia, clitoridectomy, ploughing women like fields and more (see part 1).  Mohammad’s view of women as inferior, devils and under the control of men set the scene for domestic violence and violence in general.  Mohammad participated in a wide array of acts of violence against girls/women in general whether he committed the violence himself, ordered others to carry it out or praised it later, it was clear that Mohammad supported violence against women and this violence and repressive control is encoded in Islam’s text and laws forever.

Below is a brief list of some of Mohammad’s other lovely acts against females –
a)  Mohammad beheads a woman
In the  Sirat Rasulallah, the 1st biography of Mohammad by Ibn Ishaq 8/9th century  pp.464-466 we read of Mohammad beheading of 800-900 Jewish males who surrendered to him.  He also enslaved their women and children taking  Rayhana for himself to enjoy and took all the property of the Jews. 
During this slaughter, Mohammad beheaded a Jewish woman.  

The tale  is also reported in  ***Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2665 narrated by Aisha.   Remember the laws of jihad allow the killing of women and children who dare resist  (Reliance:  Law  09.10  p603) otherwise they are enslaved and shared out to be enjoyed.

b)  Mohammad stones several women to death.  Yes there’s stoning in the Old Testament but Islamic text tells us that at the time of Mohammad, Jews nolonger stoned people.  Jesus Christ forbade stoning yet 600-700 hundred years later, Mohammad reintroduced stoning in the hadiths and stoned several people to death including women.  Stoning adulterers/fornicators remains part of allah’s laws (sharia) and continues today.

In ***Muslim Book 17, Number 4214 Mohammad criticises the Jews who have stopped stoning and reintroduces stoning as a judgement of allah that MUST be followed.

***Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 809:         Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn 'Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess. (repeated in Bukhari Vol 9, Book 93, No. 63)

Repeated also in ***Maliks Muwatta book 41 No. 41.1.1 along with plenty of other examples of stoning!

***Muslim hadith book 17  No.  4216    Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported that Allah's apostle (may peace be upon him) stoned (to death) a person from Banu Aslam and a Jew and his wife.

More stoning –
***Bukhari Volume 3, Book 38, Number 508: Narrated Zaid bin Khalid and Abu Huraira:   The Prophet said, "O Unais! Go to the wife of this (man) and if she confesses (that she has committed illegal sexual intercourse), then stone her to death."

***Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4429:   Narrated Abu Bakrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) had a woman stoned and a pit was dug up to her breasts.

There’s more stoning of women in ***Bukhari Volume 3, Book 50, Number 885

Even women seeking help and just delivered of babies were stoned under Mohammad's instructions:

***Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4426:  Narrated Imran ibn Husayn:
A woman belonging to the tribe of Juhaynah (according to the version of Aban) came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said that she had committed fornication and that she was pregnant. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) called her guardian.
Then the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said to him: Be good to her, and when she bears a child, bring her (to me). When she gave birth to the child, he brought her (to him). The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) gave orders regarding her, and her clothes were tied to her. He then commanded regarding her and she was stoned to death. He commanded the people (to pray) and they prayed over her….

Muslims cover this sadism with claims that stoning ‘purifies’ you.   There’s nothing purifying in the sadism of stoning.   Mohammad could have done as Jesus Christ did and refused to condemn the woman and freed her –Mohammad didn’t, he stoned her to death! 

 Stoning is part of Sharia law and widely practiced today.  We in the west only hear of the occasional stoning or attempted stoning but this practice occurs even in relatively modern Islamic countries eg Turkey’s countryside, and Indonesia.

c) Mohammad flogs his female slaves and allows female slaves to be brutally beaten in his presence. (scourge = whip or lash)

***Bukhari Volume 3, Book 46, Number 731: Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid: The Prophet said, "If a slave-girl (Ama) commits illegal sexual intercourse, scourge her; if she does it again, scourge her again; if she repeats it, scourge her again." The narrator added that on the third or the fourth offence, the Prophet said, "Sell her even for a hair rope."

***Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4458:    ( Basically repeated in *Muslim hadiths Book 17, No. 4224: )    Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:   A slave-girl belonging to the house of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) committed fornication. He (the Prophet) said: Rush up, Ali, and inflict the prescribed punishment on her. I then hurried up, and saw that blood was flowing from her, and did not stop. So I came to him and he said: Have you finished inflicting (punishment on her)? I said: I went to her while her blood was flowing. He said: Leave her alone till her bleeding stops; then inflict the prescribed punishment on her. And inflict the prescribed punishment on those whom your right hands possess (i.e. slaves).

Note Mohammad had sex with his slaves eg Maria, Rayhana --but I guess it's only illegal if it's not with Mohammad or the slave owner!

At the time when doubts were raised about the moral behaviour of Aisha with a young soldier, a slave was brought to Mohammad to give her observations-

**As for Ali he said “Women are plentiful, and you can easily change one for another.  Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.” So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her and  Ali got up and gave her a violent beating, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.’” (Ibn  Ishaq:  p 496 ).   Did Mohammad stop the beating –NO!

d)  Mohammad amputates the hand of a woman

***Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4382:                 Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: A woman borrowed jewellery through some known persons and she herself was unknown. She then sold them. She was seized and brought to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). He gave orders that her hand should be cut off. It is this woman about whom Usamah interceded and of her the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said whatever he said.

***Bukhari Volume 8, Book 81, Number 792    (also ***Bukhari Volume 3, Book 48, Number 816)  Narrated 'Aisha:  The Prophet cut off the hand of a lady, and that lady used to come to me, and I used to convey her message to the Prophet and she repented, and her repentance was sincere.

e) Mohammad enslaves and rapes girls and women.  I will not write detail of this as all people reading this site know that Mohammad has slaughtered, enslaved and raped .(see articles Islam’s Genocidal Slavery –Religiously Ordained Mohammad’s example -Part A 23/8/09 for Mohammad’s behaviour and Islam’s Genocidal Slavery –some text and laws Part B 24/8/09)

Mohammad took 3 women for himself (Juwairiyah, Safiya, Rayhana/Rihana) and ‘enjoyed’ them almost immediately after destroying their tribe, taking their property, and enslaving the women and children in separate acts of violence against others.  He has handed young girls out to be enjoyed by two sons-in-law and friends (read Ibn Ishaq p 593. )  These are the booty promised by allah.   Islamic law allows the rape of tiny premenstrual girls (eg Hedaya Vol 4 p 106).  This is both physical and psychological violence and sadism towards females of all ages.

In the sira by Ibn Ishaq, we know the apostle divided the property, wives and children of B. Qurayza among the Muslims, , taking a fifth for himself, after he beheaded all the adult males. He took Rayhana for himself.  Then the apostle sent Sa’d … with some of the captive women of B. Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons.   (Ibn Ishaq, p 464-466)

When Mohammad attacked Khaybar as the people went to their fields, ‘The women of Khaybar were distributed amongst the Muslims.’  (Ibn Ishaq p 511).  Mohammad took Safiya.

He attacked Juwairiyah’s tribe as they watered their cattle (Ishaq p 490-493).  And there are many more examples in the sira and hadith.

There are always excuses but how do you excuse the rape of  teenagers and a 20 year old by Mohammad shortly after he has destroyed their family, their tribe?
How do you excuse Mohammad handing out children and women for his fighters or family to enjoy?   Remember, this man is allah’s prophet, the perfect example to all.

These stories are retold throughout the hadith.
Allah fully endorsed the rapes as the Koran’s text tells men they are free to have sex with their slaves---those on their right hand.  It’s an allah given RIGHT see sura 33.50;  23.1-7;  70.29-30;  4.24...

And of course Mohammad never stopped his men from fully indulging their lust on captured females or ordinary slaves--
*** Muslim Chapter 29 (Book 8) : It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive (Commentary on Koran 4.24)

***Abu-Dawud Book 11, Number 2166:              Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:
A man said: Apostle of Allah, I have a slave-girl and I withdraw the penis from her (while having intercourse), and I dislike that she becomes pregnant. I intend (by intercourse) what the men intend by it.
The Jews say that withdrawing the penis (azl) is burying the living girls on a small scale. He (the Prophet) said: The Jews told a lie. If Allah intends to create it, you cannot turn it away.

f)  The situation is almost as bad for Muslim women -- raped, their word is not believed.
Indeed she runs the risk under sharia of being accused of illegal sex and possibly stoned to death –her word does NOT override the word of a male. “It is said that the prophet did NOT accept the testimony of women in matters of marriage, divorce and hudud” (eg adultery/fornication with set punishments)(Warraq p 310).

***Malik's Muwatta Book 41, Number 41.4.16a:   Malik said, "The position with us about a woman who is found to be pregnant and has no husband and she says, 'I was forced,' or she says, 'I was married,' is that it is not accepted from her and the hadd is inflicted on her unless she has a clear proof of what she claims about the marriage or that she was forced or she comes bleeding if she was a virgin or she calls out for help so that someone comes to her and she is in that state or what resembles it of the situation in which the violation occurred." He said, "If she does not produce any of those, the hadd is inflicted on her and what she claims of that is not accepted from her."
Malik said, "A raped woman cannot marry until she has restored herself by three menstrual periods."
He said, "If she doubts her periods, she does not marry until she has freed herself of that doubt."

g)   Mohammad requested and praised assassinations of women. 
 * Asma bint Marwan:  She composed poems that Mohammad didn’t like and he asked who would rid him of the daughter of Marwan.   Umayr ibn Adi, acting on Mohammad’s wishes, murdered her while she slept with her children.  Mohammad praised the man in the mosque. ( Ibn Ishaq, pp. 675-76 and hadiths.)

Abdullah bin Katal’s singing-girl was not on the amnesty list of the conquered of Mecca because she sang satirical verses about Mohammad.    She was killed.  (Bukhari, Military Expeditions, (online source); Ibn Ishaq, pp. 550-51).

* A blind man murders his slave-wife.

***Abu Dawud Book 38 no. 4348   Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet . . . and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet . . . and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling, the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet . . . and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet . . . said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

Mohammad didn’t even allow the compensation for bloodshed to be paid on her behalf indicating that SHE was WORTH NOTHING even though she bore sons.
* An unnamed man strangles an unnamed Jewish woman.
***Abu Dawud Book 38 No. 4349   Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib:
A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet . . . and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah . . . declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.

g)  Mohammad’s sadism continued in his cuckolded adopted son Zayd b.  Haritha.
Remember Zayd was first a slave of  Khadija (Mohammad’s wealthy, powerful, independent, business owning first wife in the PRE-Islamic era).  BEFORE he became allah’s prophet, Mohammad free him and adopted him.   Freeing slaves and adoption were common before Islam.  Mohammad later lusted after Zaid’s wife Zainab and cancelled the practice of adoption so he could marry Zainab once Zayd divorced her – this was considered incest by the Arabs, but allah made it perfectly OK!!  Zayd changed in the sira from being called the adopted son of Mohammad to his ‘freed slave.’

Mohammad sent Zayd into battle and  he captured the old women Umm Qirfa and her daughter.  Zayd ordered the old lady, who held a position of honour amongst her people, be killed –and she was cruelly killed
“by putting a rope to her two legs and to two camels and driving them until they RENT HER IN TWO” (Ibn Ishaq p 665).
(Muslim historian Kamel Najar informs us that Umm Qirfa's head was presented to Muhammad, who ordered it to be paraded throughout Medina. [staringattheview 2010])

Umm Qirfa’s daughter was enslaved and impregnated. (Ibn Ishaq p 665)

Mohammad was also partial to torture –he had the leader of the Khaibar/Khaybar Jews tortured  --a fire was lit on his chest (Ibn Ishaq p 515).   Mohammad  cut off the limbs, burnt out the eyes and left the 8 tribesmen of  Ukil to die in the heat of the desert without water and without cauterising their wounds (see article Nagla al-Imam –sharia expert, Christian convert from Islam--tortured in Egypt. 13/8/2010 this site, apostasy section and Bukhari-- -Vol 1, Book 4, No. 234;   Vol 4 Book 52 No. 261;    Vol 5, Book 59, No. 505;     Vol 7, Book 71, No. 623;    Vol 8, Book 82, No. 794;      Vol 8, Book 82, No. 796;    Vol 8, Book 82, No. 797;   
Muslim --- Book 16, No. 4131;     Book 16, No. 4132;     Book 16, No. 4134: )

h) Violence to females was continued by the ‘rightly guided’ after Mohammad-

***Malik, Book 30, Number 30.2.13:    Yahya related to me from Malik that Abdullah ibn Dinar said, “A man came to Abdullah ibn Umar when I was with him at the place where judgments were given and asked him about the suckling of an older person. Abdullah ibn Umar replied, ‘A man came to Umar ibn al-Khattab and said, ‘I have a slave-girl and I used to have intercourse with her. My wife went to her and suckled her. When I went to the girl, my wife told me to watch out, because she had suckled her!’ Umar told him to beat his wife and to go to his slave-girl because kinship by suckling was only by the suckling of the young.’

Mohammad’s example of sadism towards others including girls and women, spread through his adopted son/freed slave, his men, and his companions who became caliphs,  becoming the model of behaviour that is still seen today with Islam’s extreme violence and sadism to both Muslim and non-Muslim girls and women.  The rape and violence to non-Muslim girls in the Islamic world is unbelievably horrifying and this has spread into the west with Muslim males responsible for a disproportionately high number of rapes.   And Muslim females ---who knows the real truth but studies show high rates of physical and sexual abuse, restrictions, child marriage and honour killing (allowed in Palestine, Jordan, ---in Iraq deaths of females are only investigated if asked...and elsewhere..).

For Tariq Ramadan to tell the bald-faced lie that Mohammad never hit a female, that therefore there’s no domestic violence in Islam and imply that Mohammad treated females well in general is obscene.  I have never read of anyone and certainly no religious leader, the perfect example to others, who was more brutal and repressive to females than Mohammad.   Did Jesus Christ or Buddha treat girls and women as Mohammad did   - NO!

No, no culture of hatred and violence towards women, domestic or otherwise here, Mr Tariq Ramadan –well not if you look with Muslim eyes anyway!

Tariq of course is well versed in Islam’s taqiyya—lying for Islam; any lie as long as the end (Islamic supremacy) is praiseworthy (Reliance Law r8.2 p 745, also exaggeration and misleading impressions Laws r9.0—10.3).  Of course lying to kuffars isn’t a problem!   Tariq is the grandson of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna and his father Said was so ‘prominent’ in the Muslim Brotherhood he was exiled from Egypt to Switzerland where Tariq was born.  When will the west stop hosting and promoting these dangerous Muslims?

This is but a brief look at some of Mohammad’s treatment of women and there’s more!

Following Tariq's wording in part 1;    Let’s ‘contextualise’ this in the ‘global message’ of Islam (submit or else) and the ‘prophetic traditions’   --
Ie Violently punish females, adult or child, Muslim or not,  if they dare step outside the rigid, degrading confines Islam allows them –this is both the allah given RIGHT and duty of Muslim men!    And it has continued for 1400 years!

One must wonder why someone who either doesn’t know Islam’s text and laws or who does know them but lies about them becomes a professor of Islamic studies at a once prestigious university like Oxford.
This shows how low Oxford has sunk.  Oxford once had integrity and standards, then it got Islam and Tariq Ramadan.

1)  Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, Translated by A. Guillaume, Oxford University Press, Oxford, England, (Re-issued in Karachi, Pakistan, 1967, 13th impression, 1998) 1955.
 The first biography of Mohammad –rendition from the early 9th century.  The SIRA.

2)  King, Richard.   Shooting Sacred Cows.  P 15  The Australian Literary Review.  August 4 2010.

3)  Staringattheview;  Sunday, January 3, 2010  Muslims and Muhammad and Umm Qirfa.

4)  Warraq, Ibn.  ‘Why I am not a Muslim.’  Prometheus books.  1995

Further Text and Laws:
a)  Hedaya or guide:   A commentary on the Mussulman laws:   Translated by order of the Governor-General and Council of Bengal   by Charles Hamilton:   Vol IV.  (1791)  London.  Printed by T.  Bensley.  (this is a reprint of the original)

b)  Reliance of the Traveller:  A classic manual of Islamic sacred law.   In Arabic with facing English Text, commentary and appendices edited and translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller  Al-Misri, Ahmad ibn Naqib;  Amana publications  Maryland USA 1994.

Has a lot of text (Koran, hadith)  though ‘diluted’ for western consumption with missing sections.   Note translations and numbering particularly numbering of hadiths can vary considerably.   Bukhari is more consistently numbered than other hadith sets.

d)  The Noble Quran:   endowment for allah’s sake from the custodian of the two holy mosques......King Fahd Complex.   Supplied free from the government of Saudi Arabia.

e)  ALIM CDRom  -koran, hadiths some legal text.

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