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Jesus vs. Isa Part2

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IsaIsa’s superior to Mohammad.   Part 2  of Koran confirms Christian claims

Any who know Christian and Islamic text know that Jesus and Mohammad are opposites in many highly significant ways eg Jesus preached against the violence that is so characteristic of Mohammad.  However this isn’t about the Christian Jesus and Mohammad, it’s an examination of  Isa and Mohammad in the Koran (the literal truth straight from allah according to Muslims).  It shows that Isa is superior in significant ways.  Is the superiority of Isa a result of naive plagiarism of Christian text re Jesus or is some deeper, non-Islamic truth being revealed despite efforts to hide it?

From part 1 we know that Isa/Jesus was born to a virgin who became pregnant by allah/allah’s ruh while Mohammad had two human parents.    We also know Isa/Jesus was killed and rose to heaven while Mohammad simply got sick, died and was buried.  Mohammad’s name is written only 4 times in the Koran.  All other occurrences are not actually written in the Arabic. Yet Isa’s name occurs ~25 times in the actual Arabic text as well as many references to the son of Mary and the Christ.   We know of Isa’s birth and death/resurrection but Mohammad’s birth or death are not mentioned  in the Koran. And there are more stunning differences:

Isa/Jesus is ‘like’ allah/god

1) Like allah, Isa has knowledge of ‘the hour’ and returns as the last prophet.  Mohammad has no such knowledge, (He) is NOT the one to return and is NOT the last prophet.
*Koran 7:187; 31:34; 41:47 43:85 claim that only Allah has “the knowledge of the hour” ilm as-saa’a i.e. when the Last Day will be.   Stunningly Koran 43:61 states that Jesus has “the knowledge of the hour!!!  
*Koran 31.34    Verily, allah, with him (alone) is the knowledge of the hour...

Isa will break crossesKoran 43.61 the Arabic says la’ ilm assaa’a—he has the knowledge of the hour---referring to Isa/Jesus.   The ilm means ‘knowledge’ and is the usual Arabic form.  The original Arabic had no vowels so some use ‘alam  meaning flag or sign.

Here are two common ‘western’ translations:

Koran 43.61-
YUSUFALI: And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment)....
PICKTHAL: And lo! verily there is (try he has..) knowledge of the Hour.....

Following his return to earth, the hadith also say Isa/Jesus will Judge people-admittably not from the koran but the next best—the Bukhari hadith -but included to show the importance of Isa/Jesus who returns to earth, kills Christians and JUDGES!!  

Bukhari vol 4 No. 657          Narrated Abu Huraira,
Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non-Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it." Abu Huraira added "If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): 'And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them." (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol 7)

2) (Both) Allah (*Koran  26.80) and Isa/Jesus (*Koran 3.49) heal the sick:

* Koran 26.80  "And when I am ill, it is He Who cures me;

*Koran 3.49  "And (appoint him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah's leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;

3) (Both) Allah (*Koran 42.9) and Isa (*Koran 3.49) raise the dead—see 3.49 above where Isa not only gives clay birds life, and heals the sick BUT also brings the dead to life!

*Koran 42.9  .....But it is Allah,- He is the Protector, and it is He Who gives life to the dead: It is He Who has power over all things,

4) (Both)  Allah (*Koran  73.20) and Isa (*Koran 3.50) ‘lighten’ the law –a divine action!

*Koran 3.50    And (I –Isa, come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.

5) (Both) Allah and Isa/Jesus could see the unseen but Mohammad could NOT.Isa will kill the swine
Mohammad could not see the unseen (*Koran 6.50).   Knowing the unseen is a characteristic of God only (*Koran 13.9;   6:59), and He does not disclose the unseen to anyone, except one who is pleasing to Him (*Koran 72:26, 27). Yet Jesus knew what people had hidden in their houses (*Koran 3:49). Does this supernatural knowledge mean that he was the one most pleasing to God, more than Muhammad?

*Koran 6.50  Say: (O Muhammad) I do not say to you, I have with me the treasures of Allah, nor do I know the unseen, nor do I say to you that I am an angel; I do not follow aught save that which is revealed to me. ...

*Koran 72.26-27  (He alone is) the Knower of the Unseen, and He revealeth unto none His secret,  "Except a messenger whom He has chosen: and then He makes a band of watchers march before him and behind him,
But in *Koran 3.49  (see point 2) we read ..... “And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses.   Surely in that is a sign for you , if you are believers.”   Or  “I tell you as a prophet what you eat and what you store in your houses--Unabbi’ukum  --And in that is a sign or a miracle to you.” (Saudi version of the koran)  
So, Isa had special knowledge as it was a miracle/sign in line with the other miracles/signs---ie Isa/Jesus was not simply telling people what they should eat or store in their houses as some translations suggest.
6) Is Isa Mohammad’s Lord? -Muslims believe that Isa/Jesus will return to judge the earth (*Koran 43:61).  Muhammad was told that the One who returns with the angels is “your Lord” rabbuka. (*Koran 89:22).  Is Isa/Jesus Mohammad’s (and everyone’s)  Lord?

When you read *Koran 89.22 it appears to be about allah but this doesn’t fit because allah doesn’t really come to earth—it’s Isa who returns to earth at the end times that this text refers to (see *K 43.61  point 1)!  You can’t really see allah though a hadith says you might see his shin!   As you read *Koran 72.26-27 (point 5) this fits with the messenger to whom is revealed the unseen and who has a band of watchers in front and behind ie Isa.   But *Koran 89.22 says this is your lord!

*Koran 89.22 And your Lord comes and (also) the angels in ranks/rows,

Jesus hijacked by Muhammad 7)  Both Isa/Jesus and allah are described as holy  

*Koran 19.19  
YUSUFALI: He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
PICKTHAL: He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.
SHAKIR: He said: I am only a messenger of your Lord: That I will give you a pure boy.

The word ‘Zakiyyan’ meaning holy, righteous, faultless, pure is used for Isa /Jesus while ‘qudduus’ is used on the two occasions (*Koran 59.23; K 62.1) that allah is called holy.

More evidence of Isa/Jesus’s superiority over Mohammad

8) Isa is in paradise with allah (part 1 *K 3.55 etc) but Mohammad is uncertain of his fate (*Koran 46.9) as is the case with all Muslims (except Isa!).   Indeed allah predetermines prebirth who will be allowed into paradise and who won’t as allah breathes your sin into you and this cannot be changed except perhaps on a whim later (see Evil Allah Leads People Astray - 13-05-8)!   Was NO sin breathed into Isa/Jesus so he went straight to paradise apparently without being judged and judges others!  Is Isa/Jesus sinless while Mohammad is a sinner?? (see point 9)
*Koran 46.9  Say (O Muhammad): I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner.

9) Isa/Jesus is untouched by Satan:  Is Isa/Jesus sinless while Mohammad is a sinner?  The (Hadith or Traditions of) Bukhari are highly revered, authoritative and second to the Koran.

* Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 506:     Narrated Abu Huraira:     The Prophet said, "When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead."

*Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 641:   Narrated Said bin Al-Musaiyab:
    Abu Huraira said, "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is none born among the off-spring of Adam, but Satan touches it. A child therefore, cries loudly at the time of birth because of the touch of Satan, except Mary and her child."   (see Koran 3.36)

Mohammad, the sinner:

*Koran 40.55 Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask forgiveness of thy sin...,
*Koran 48. 1-2 Lo! We have given thee (O Muhammad) a signal victory, That Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, ...

10) Isa/Jesus worked miracles in the Koran but Mohammad could not perform miracles (*Koran 3.181-84;  6:7-9, 109;  17:90-93;    29: 48-50 )   Mohammad’s only sign was the Koran (*Koran 21:10;  29:51-52).    Some claim he split the moon but his name isn’t actually mentioned.  It is claimed, post event that Muhammad prophesied the Roman’s defeat and return to victory (but the timespan was wrong! Eg *Koran 30.2-4) and some miracles are claimed in hadiths.   The Koran notes many miracles for Isa/Jesus:


Interfaith anyone?

a) Jesus/Isa spoke as a child in the cradle (Koran 3.46; 5.110, 19.30-34) possibly immediately on his birth eg *Koran 19.24-26 claims a voice/Isa called out below Mary as she gave birth telling her of a stream and date palm tree so she could eat and drink!


*K 19.24 Then (the child) called out to her from beneath her: Grieve not, surely your Lord has made a stream to flow beneath you;

*K 3.46  He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous.

b) Several pieces tell us Isa/Jesus brought clay birds to life; healed the blind and lepers; brought the dead back to life; knew what people ate and stored in their homes;   eg * Koran 3.49 (point 2); *Koran 5.110.

11) Isa/Jesus also requested and received from allah a table all laid out (*Koran 5.112-115)
.  Mohammad received no such miracles on request.

*Koran 5.114 -115   Jesus, son of Mary, said: O Allah, Lord of us! Send down for us a table spread with food from heaven, that it may be a feast for us, for the first of us and for the last of us, and a sign from Thee. Give us sustenance, for Thou art the Best of Sustainers.
Allah said: Lo! I send it down for you. And whoso disbelieveth of you afterward, him surely will I punish with a punishment wherewith I have not punished any of (My) creatures.

12) Isa/Jesus is taught by allah – this seems to exceed mere revelation (*Koran 3.48, K 5.110). 

*Koran 5.110  Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary!..... Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel..   Also *Koran 3.48

13) Further notable descriptions of Isa/Jesus:

a) He is described in *Koran 19.19 as holy/pure/ faultless and righteous  (also *K 3.46.  He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous. )

b) He is also described as a Word of allah, The Christ or Messiah  (often eg *Koran 3.45;  4.157,  171-172;  5.17, 72, 75;   9.30-31), illustrious/honoured in this world and the next, and one of those near to allah.  What possible meaning can ‘Christ’ or ‘Messiah’ or anointed one for priests/kings have in Islam?  Many terms clearly come from Christian text and their meaning is lost or confused or absurd in Islam!

*Koran 3.45  Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ (or Messiah) Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;
*Koran 4.172 The Messiah will never scorn to be a slave unto Allah...

c) Isa/Jesus is supported by the holy spirit-
*Koran 2. 87 ...We gave unto Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty), and We supported him with the holy Spirit. ..    Also *Koran  2.253,  *Koran 5.110.

d) Isa/Jesus is a ‘spirit of allah’ –

*Koran 4.171  ...... Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him:

e) Isa/Jesus is a mercy (*Koran 19.21) and blessed, kind, not overbearing or miserable, with peace upon him  eg *Koran 19.31-33.

14) Also in support of Christian text,

a) Isa/Jesus correctly denies that he teaches people to worship his mother eg *Koran 5.116,  5.117.   Muslims have no comprehension of the Christian trinity of god the father/son/holy spirit ie 3 forms of 1 god and believe it’s god/Jesus/MARY!!)  

b) he has disciples eg *Koran 3.52,  *Koran 5.111-112!

*Koran 5.116  And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right..

Negative comments

In the Koran the most negative things said about Isa/Jesus is that he is a slave/servant/messenger of allah, not divine (*Koran  5.17;  5.72-73;  5.116) and not a Lord (*Koran 9.31;  3.64).  Supposedly the gospel given to Isa (*Koran 5.46; 19.30) tells people to fight in allah’s cause and to kill and be killed (*Koran  9.111) and in hadith Isa is a killer for allah – this is in clear contradiction to the Christian Jesus who wasn’t given a book and taught followers not to kill!  Hence Isa is a distortion of Jesus but stunningly certain characteristics, descriptions and abilities plus the clearly superior position of Isa/Jesus can be found in the Koran whether a result of plagiarism in an effort to attract gullible Christians without realising the meaning of plagiarised text, or an effort to subsume Christianity within Islam or an inability to hide the truth about Christianity’s Jesus,  I leave readers to decide.   Note the name Jesus does NOT translate into Isa.

Slave of Allah
No matter what, Isa is NOT a friend of Jews and Christians

While Mohammad is described as a good example (*Koran 33.21); mercy (*Koran 21.107), honourable messenger (*Koran 81.19) with sublime morals (!!!) (*Koran 68.4), it is obvious that Isa is far superior and favoured by allah.  Indeed further text supposedly about Mohammad (the Prophet) show his violence and intolerance towards others, his slavery and abuse of captured females, violence towards women and a host of other unacceptable attitudes and behaviours towards women and non-Muslims –supported by allah.   Has someone attempted to unite 2 different gods in Islam?

Remember, this is NOT a comparison between Christianity’s Jesus who is morally infinitely superior to Mohammad but it is a comparison between Mohammad and Isa in the Koran where Isa is clearly superior so one wonders WHY would anyone follow the inferior Mohammad?

Their text also poses  problems as a) it says that those that worship anything other than allah, they and their false gods will be thrown into the fire (eg *Koran 21.98;  37.22-23...).  Christians worship Christ/Jesus so will they AND Christ/Jesus be thrown into the fire?  I don’t regard Islam’s Isa as Christ/Jesus BUT Islam calls Isa ‘Christ’ and passes him off as Jesus and affords him a very high status!   Hence Muslims must either admit that they will throw their Isa into the fire or admit that he is NOT the Christian Jesus as they try to claim!

Muslims are required to believe in allah and Mohammad his prophet ---and Jinn  (failing to believe in jinn is unbelief or apostasy) ---so is the Islamic ‘trinity’ allah/Mohammad/jinn---3 distinct entities?
Many thanks to B.

ALIMCDRom – quran, hadiths, etc

The noble Koran:   English translations of the meanings and commentary.   Endowment for allah’s sake from the custodian of the two holy mosques king Abdullah ibn’abd al-aziz al Saud  (ie Saudi freebie)

Most text available HERE (for hadiths) and HERE   (for Koran)  Note verse numbers, phrasing can vary between translations.  Many 'English' versions are very 'sanitised' or 'mistranslated.'  Verses are missing.
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