As news of the further development of superbugs is released (Age 24/7/08) - not to mention infection with lesser bugs following hospital stays, the need for a comprehensive , systematic approach to ‘Healthcare Associated Infections’ becomes very urgent. Such an approach requires infection control, hand hygiene, mandatory immunisation of health-care workers against vaccine-preventable diseases etc. But, will the safety of others be compromised to comply with Muslim demands and practices - we wouldn’t want to ‘offend’ a Muslim would we?
Many of the areas examined below may apply to some extent to others but Muslims are a particular problem because of their:
- uncritical ‘religious’ observance;
- demands that we agree to Islam’s dictates hidden under the guise of ‘tolerance/religious freedom/ multiculturalism/diversity’ etc and that failure to do so is followed by threats and cries of ‘racist’ or ‘persecution’;
- aims to takeover - Islamization of Australia;
- allegiance to the umma;
- horrific attitudes to non-Muslims and females
1) Alcohol rubs: Studies reveal that Alcohol hand rubs are faster, healthier, and more effective in killing transient
micro-organisms and leaving the hands dry (important in reducing the growth of bacteria) – modern rubs don’t excessively dry the skin or cause irritation. While washing hands is needed for obviously soiled hands, or spore removal, rubs are preferred for routine cleaning and can be made available anywhere (no water needed). (reference)
WHO supports alcohol rubs and notes: “Religions that ban alcohol are partly to blame for the spread of infections in hospitals around the world because staff are not disinfecting their hands enough, say some experts.” “Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism and the Sikh religion all ban the use of alcohol.” (WHO says handwash taboo spreads infections 20/12/05) (reference)
micro-organisms and leaving the hands dry (important in reducing the growth of bacteria) – modern rubs don’t excessively dry the skin or cause irritation. While washing hands is needed for obviously soiled hands, or spore removal, rubs are preferred for routine cleaning and can be made available anywhere (no water needed). (reference) WHO supports alcohol rubs and notes: “Religions that ban alcohol are partly to blame for the spread of infections in hospitals around the world because staff are not disinfecting their hands enough, say some experts.” “Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism and the Sikh religion all ban the use of alcohol.” (WHO says handwash taboo spreads infections 20/12/05) (reference)
Of course, the problem’s really those Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs.....funny then that it’s only Muslims who are refusing to comply- Feb 07:
“ It recently came to the attention of health officials at London Chest Hospital that Muslim health care workers, and visitors to Muslim patients were refusing to wash their hands with the provided anti-bacterial gel dispensers before coming into contact with a patient. In the world of health care, this is extremely alarming: it is estimated that yearly in the U.S. alone, 1 in 20 hospital patients or some 2 million contract a bacterial infection while in the hospital; 90,000 die. .... So why did these people refuse to comply? Well, because the antibacterial “rub” contains alcohol - and that is forbidden in Islam.....The article goes on to note that Muslims completely ignored large signs to use the gel. The problem with Muslims was ‘not uncommon’ in Europe US, Canada.(Australia???)
WHO noted:
‘that the proliferation of super-bugs infections in hospitals could be directly related to the refusal of some Muslims to comply with sanitation regulations."
The incidence of bacterial infection fell when solutions that required no water or towels were introduced. “Another problem was getting others to report non-compliers as people feared being called “racist” or “bigoted”. They have to be supported by staff management in putting the health and indeed survival of patients before the religious preferences of a few workers who may accuse them of intolerance for Islam.” WHO set anthropologists to address issues of religious/cultural non-compliance!! (reference)
No washing please - we're Muslim
Why do we need to hire anyone to ‘address the issue’ - it should be a matter of law and those who blatantly risk the lives of others must be charged. Nor should we spend a fortune trying to find some acceptable alternative for Muslims - it’s time they were treated like everyone else. How dare Muslims believe themselves and their obscene religion to be above any consideration of others!!
Then we get the ‘oh Muslims can use alcohol for medicinal purposes’ and the fact that they are used in the middle-east – because this is just another ploy by Muslims to demand special this/that, to refuse to integrate and adhere to our laws or practices and to pretend they are victims! I don’t give a toss about their barbaric religion outside its deadly effect on others! If they work in health professions, they must by law be made to wash including use of alcohol rubs and dress to minimize the spread of infection. Why are we all put at risk to appease these demanding people who seem incapable of thinking or acting outside their 7th century dictates!! Will we start using polluted water and drinking camel’s urine to cure illnesses (eg Bukhari Vol 1 Book 4 No. 234; Bukhari Vol 2 book 24 No. 577; Muslim book 16 Nos 4130---4136) because that’s what their text says?
Muslim Book 1, No. 67: (and 66) Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah : Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.
2) Islamic attire: In Britain 4/2/08 we read “THOUSANDS of hospital patients are in danger of catching deadly 
superbugs because Muslim medical students refuse to follow new hygiene rules. The Department of Health has ordered staff to be “bare past the elbow” in a bid to halt the spread of infections like MRSA and C.diff. They say the rule is essential to ensure workers are properly able to wash their hands and wrists. But female Muslim students training in hospitals in England have refused to implement the directive, because Islam forbids women exposing more than their hands and face in public.”.... “A spokesman for the Islamic Medical Association said:
superbugs because Muslim medical students refuse to follow new hygiene rules. The Department of Health has ordered staff to be “bare past the elbow” in a bid to halt the spread of infections like MRSA and C.diff. They say the rule is essential to ensure workers are properly able to wash their hands and wrists. But female Muslim students training in hospitals in England have refused to implement the directive, because Islam forbids women exposing more than their hands and face in public.”.... “A spokesman for the Islamic Medical Association said:“No practising Muslim woman doctor, medical student, nurse or patient should be forced to bare her arms below the elbow.”.. “Dr Charles Tannock, a Tory MEP and former hospital consultant, said: “These students are being trained using taxpayers’ money. They have a duty of care not to put patients’ health at risk.” (source)
According to Islamonline , it was just those nasty ‘racists’ again spreading religious hatred!!
Yes, bare skin does carry micro-organisms (usually those that live permanently on the skin are ‘safe’) but it is easy to wash off any picked up during the many contacts with patients by simply washing the arms or using an alcohol rub - but, you can’t wash the dirty long sleeves of a Muslim female’s attire! Think where those sleeves have draped during the day...and it isn’t only the sleeves! Such sleeves prevent even correct washing of the hands and no doubt become damp making them lovely sites for microbial growth!!
Muslim Patient
Their hijabs and long attire are perfect for transporting micro-organisms. A nurse’s uniform can be splashed but imagine the hidden splashes, collection of skin flakes, spores, bacterial clumps and worse that gather in the folds and on the material of the hijab (on face, shoulders, chest), long sleeves, long attire which can’t be immediately washed off and is dropped over you!!!
A suitable uniform would be hair tied back, simple shirt with short sleeves or to the elbow and simple pants or skirt that does not drag on the ground.
3) Vaccinations:
A leading Islamic doctor is urging British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseasessuch as measles, mumps, and rubella because they contain substances making them unlawful for Muslim. Dr Abdul Majid Katme, head of the Islamic Medical Association, says almost all vaccines contain un-Islamic "haram" derivatives of animal or human tissue, and that Muslim parents are better off letting childrens' immune systems develop on their own. (28/1/07). (source)
We all know about the imams in Africa banning vaccinations for polio etc---but this is Britain!! Perhaps it’s not surprising that “Official warning: Measles 'endemic' in Britain -21/6/08 as vaccinations against this deadly virus have reached a low particularly in London with potentially lethal measles becoming endemic!! (reference)
Of course Muslims aren’t solely to blame here but they are a significant contributing factor, particularly when healthcare staff need to be vaccinated!
4) Prayer practices:
Muslims who wash for prayer don’t ‘wash’ as we understand it. They then crouch on the floor, bending body and head to the floor. Floors are dirty and no doubt our sensitive, appeasing hospitals have provided special Muslim apartheid prayer rooms where staff pop off to pray then return to the ward, making both males and females sources for infection.
5) Training problems-overseas and local:
An Australian Government paper shows that many overseas trained doctors are working in our society without proper checks at all –they have not had proper assessment and aren’t supervised. (reference)
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Overseas trained doctors make up about 36% of doctors practising in Australia yet most medicos believe the flood
of overseas doctors is lowering standards and endangering patients (Foreign Docs Danger Row. Heraldsun 16/7/08)
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Overseas trained doctors make up about 36% of doctors practising in Australia yet most medicos believe the flood
of overseas doctors is lowering standards and endangering patients (Foreign Docs Danger Row. Heraldsun 16/7/08)While this applies to all overseas trained doctors, a particular problem arises with Muslims because Islam teaches that their allegiance is with the umma - ie other Muslims. Islamic laws allow lying to protect a Muslim, who must never be handed to the kaffirs. Hence there is potential for Muslims in power in immigration, state, local government, hospitals and clinics to promote other Muslims and hide their incompetence.
6) Muslims in positions of authority in hospitals:
Will they fail to promote non-Muslims? Will they turn a blind eye to Muslim failure to adhere to hygiene practices using alcohol gels, or handle certain patients or carry out certain tasks? Will they allow, or even practice, genital mutilation/clitoridectomy or fail to report those who perform it? Will they report Islamic violence to females or the rape of a pre-pubescent girl in an Islamically sanctioned marriage? (No wonder RMIT provides Muslim students with a list of Muslim doctors!!) Will they alter practices to conform to Islam and endanger the health of patients? Will they fire or intimidate those that dare to complain or criticise a Muslim, Islam or its practices?
Will they fail to promote non-Muslims? Will they turn a blind eye to Muslim failure to adhere to hygiene practices using alcohol gels, or handle certain patients or carry out certain tasks? Will they allow, or even practice, genital mutilation/clitoridectomy or fail to report those who perform it? Will they report Islamic violence to females or the rape of a pre-pubescent girl in an Islamically sanctioned marriage? (No wonder RMIT provides Muslim students with a list of Muslim doctors!!) Will they alter practices to conform to Islam and endanger the health of patients? Will they fire or intimidate those that dare to complain or criticise a Muslim, Islam or its practices?
7) Islamic attitudes and culture:
Islamic text promotes hatred of others and appalling attitudes and practices towards girls and women, making it incompatible with our egalitarian society.
Problems have arisen with Muslim trainees in western countries where they refuse to handle certain patients or do certain things (in Islam ‘marriageable males and females must be segregated...even when married, they are not to look at the others genitals...); refuse to wash adequately or when failed, falsely claim persecution. Note a recent American case:
“Her academic failure, however, hasn’t stopped her attorney, James McQueen, from making a series of allegations of religious discrimination in her defense, including her reluctance to conduct chest and pelvic examinations on male subjects. She claims that her alleged persecution grew so bad, she stopped attending classes altogether and is now forced to take anxiety medication.” 17/7/08 (source)
Why should taxpayer’s money be wasted training people whose ‘religion’ renders them ‘unsuitable’ as truly caring, egalitarian health professionals!
Muslim doctors on a mercy mission. Sabeel Ahmed (left) and his brother, Kafeel (right). Kafeel later died after driving the car bomb into the airport terminal building.
8) Islamic apartheid medicine to advance Islam:
The constitution of the The Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association UK reveals the true nature of Islam—Religious apartheid (Muslims/non-muslims) promotion of Islam, the Islamization of medicine and the care of Muslims!
The constitution of the The Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association UK reveals the true nature of Islam—Religious apartheid (Muslims/non-muslims) promotion of Islam, the Islamization of medicine and the care of Muslims!
2. Objects and powers:
2.1 The objects of the association shall be:-
2.1.1. To advance the Islamic religion in the practice of medicine in the United Kingdom
2.1.2. To advance medical education in relation to the doctrines, practices and traditions of the Islamic religion.
2.1.4. To promote the preservation and protection of the good health of Muslims in the United Kingdom. (source)
Frighteningly already the University of Adelaide allowed Islamic graduates to read an “Oath of a Muslim Physician” in their graduation ceremony (reference)
Does any other group practice religious apartheid medicine?
Already in Australia we have the ‘Healthcare Providers handbook on Muslim Patients’ (Muslim Patients - 16/02/07) so all carers can learn about Islam and spend their time carrying out the dictates of Islam for the Muslim patient -forget everyone else!! NO, there aren’t ‘handbooks’ for every other religion and there shouldn’t be for Islam!!
Try this instead: Healthcare professionals learn about medicine and how to treat all patients as equals, providing the best healthcare without special treatment of Muslims. And, Muslim healthcare professionals learn that Medicine is not another forum for their jihad to Islamize Australia or do their dawa; that Muslims whether patients, healthcarers or visitors abide by the hygiene practices that the hospital demands; that Muslims don’t get special treatment and that the offensive attitudes to others and to girls/women found in Islamic text have no place in our society.
It’s hard to discover what’s happening here but Britain and the US are a guide. I have already seen a fully covered nurse (big folded hijab across chest) caring for newborns in a big Australian city hospital!!!
To sum up, we need laws that guarantee:
- that all staff, regardless of religious belief or culture, follow the best hygiene procedures.
- that Muslims don’t gain sufficient control to implement dangerous Islamic practices.
- the right to fail Muslim students without being accused of racism, and sued.
- that all healthcare professionals are trained to handle, care for and respect all people, male and female.
- the right to sue hospitals that allow disease carrying Islamic attire and look the other way as Muslims ignore health procedures.
- the right to sue individuals who fail to carry out correct washing, and other hygiene procedures.
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President Obama is going to pass strict hate crime laws that ensure that our healthcare doesn't discriminate against the ladies of the bag
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August 06, 2008
Thank you Circe.
In the United States, the attorney, if he accepts a case, must protect and argue on behalf of his client, to the best of his ability, while staying within the law, even if his client is a murderer. We don't hang him a la Islam on mere suspicion, as happens often in Islam. Yesterday I read a case of a poor Muslim girl who was murdered by an uncle and dad because they thought she was having sex out of marriage. Later, it was discovered the poor girl was a virgin. Did Islam give this poor girl a chance? Of course not. Islam had a chance to murder her, so Islam murdered her in an "honor killing."
For those of you who claim that "honor killing" isn't Islam. If that's true, then why is it only Islam that murders in a so-called honor killing? I'm not blind or stupid. HONOR KILLING IS ISLAM!!!
Here, in the States we give the client a chance to defend himself whether he is guilty or not. If the accused can't pay for an attorney, one is given him at the cost of taxpayers.
I haven't checked into it, but I feel confident that Muslim nurses and doctors must use all avialable means to save a life here in the United States. So far as I know, someone's religion has no bearing if a person decides to become a nurse or doctor. I haven't heard of any cases concerning this area about religion and medicine. I feel very confident that if alcohol is the best desinfectant, then, alcohol will be used. I can't imagine any hospital making exceptions. Usually, here it's "to hell with your religion. Either you comply with our medicinal methods, or you get lost and find yourself another job." We take these things VERY, VERY seriously. The hospital must take it very seriously, simply because it's proper, and because they know that if the hospital didn't use the best methods, said hospital would be sued. AND THE HOSPITAL WOULD BE SUED IF IT'S DISCOVERED THAT PROPER DISINFECTANTS WERE NOT USED IN TRYING TO SAVE A LIFE THAT EXPIRED BECAUSE OF FAILURE TO USE PROPER MEDICINES, OR DISINFECTANTS.
If I go to a hospital, I'll ask questions if Muslim doctors or Muslim nurses are present.
BY NOW, I'M SURE YOU'VE NOTICED THAT MUSLIMS DON'T HAVE COMMON SENSE. GENERALLY, MUSLIMS ARE BEFUDDLED BY SATAN/ALLAH, THE GOD OF DECEPTION AND CONFUSION. THE MUSLIM RELIGION IS A HUGE FAILURE AND BASED ON HATRED!!! Islam is the religion of hatred, religion of cruelty, religion of death and destruction.
I've said often, but I'll say it again. Islam was founded primarily to destroy especially human beings. Withholding medicines to human beings is simply another way to destroy human beings. Notice that when things that are good for human beings, Islam abhors it if it can find a way to get away with it.
Example, beautiful music uplifts the human soul. What happens here? Islam hates it and makes all kinds of foolish, hateful excuses, and restrains people from listening to it. And since beautiful music has been composed by "infidels," their hatred increases.
In this case, concerning medicines, Islam restrains people from using them because our medicines can same lives. Does Islam want to save lives? Hell no!! Remember, Islam was established for the express purpose to destroy human lives. And when Islam can't destroy lives, it at least suppresses it. Hence, Islamists, of the religion of hatred, suppresses women they best way they can until the evil Muslims find a way to murder them. When the Islamists think they can get away with it, they'll stone women to death.
Islam destroys children simply because children are the most vulnerable. Believe me, if children weren't so vulnerable, Islam wouldn't destroy as many.
Let's not forget that Islam did not come from the True God, the God of Love, the God of Christians and Jews. The True God gave us beautiful laws such as: "You shall not kill." "You shall not commit adultery," and many more beautiful laws that would create concord among a society that is ready to obey such laws.
On the other hand, the god of Muslims is Satan/Allah that taught the complete opposite of everything that is good for human beings. It taught to kill, for example, "Slay the unbelievers wherever you catch them," (Sura 2 Verse 191).
Satan/Allah gave permission to Muslims to rape, commit legalized adultery, to practice legalized prostitution. Paedophile Muhammed raped a child. Lecherous old Muslims rape children legally. Polygamy is legalized prostitution and legalized adultery. You and other readers are intelligent. The story of the cruelty of Islam is very, very, long. But little by little, readers will learn that in the final analysis, Islam was established primarily to destroy human lives either directly or indirectly.
May Muhammad and his obstinate followers drown drinking his potion, camel piss. Is camel piss good for you? Of course not. Remember, Islam was established for the express purpose to harm especially human beings in one way or another. Have a good day everyone.
May the True God, the God of Love bless you, and may Satan/Allah go to hell where he belongs.
In the United States, the attorney, if he accepts a case, must protect and argue on behalf of his client, to the best of his ability, while staying within the law, even if his client is a murderer. We don't hang him a la Islam on mere suspicion, as happens often in Islam. Yesterday I read a case of a poor Muslim girl who was murdered by an uncle and dad because they thought she was having sex out of marriage. Later, it was discovered the poor girl was a virgin. Did Islam give this poor girl a chance? Of course not. Islam had a chance to murder her, so Islam murdered her in an "honor killing."
For those of you who claim that "honor killing" isn't Islam. If that's true, then why is it only Islam that murders in a so-called honor killing? I'm not blind or stupid. HONOR KILLING IS ISLAM!!!
Here, in the States we give the client a chance to defend himself whether he is guilty or not. If the accused can't pay for an attorney, one is given him at the cost of taxpayers.
I haven't checked into it, but I feel confident that Muslim nurses and doctors must use all avialable means to save a life here in the United States. So far as I know, someone's religion has no bearing if a person decides to become a nurse or doctor. I haven't heard of any cases concerning this area about religion and medicine. I feel very confident that if alcohol is the best desinfectant, then, alcohol will be used. I can't imagine any hospital making exceptions. Usually, here it's "to hell with your religion. Either you comply with our medicinal methods, or you get lost and find yourself another job." We take these things VERY, VERY seriously. The hospital must take it very seriously, simply because it's proper, and because they know that if the hospital didn't use the best methods, said hospital would be sued. AND THE HOSPITAL WOULD BE SUED IF IT'S DISCOVERED THAT PROPER DISINFECTANTS WERE NOT USED IN TRYING TO SAVE A LIFE THAT EXPIRED BECAUSE OF FAILURE TO USE PROPER MEDICINES, OR DISINFECTANTS.
If I go to a hospital, I'll ask questions if Muslim doctors or Muslim nurses are present.
BY NOW, I'M SURE YOU'VE NOTICED THAT MUSLIMS DON'T HAVE COMMON SENSE. GENERALLY, MUSLIMS ARE BEFUDDLED BY SATAN/ALLAH, THE GOD OF DECEPTION AND CONFUSION. THE MUSLIM RELIGION IS A HUGE FAILURE AND BASED ON HATRED!!! Islam is the religion of hatred, religion of cruelty, religion of death and destruction.
I've said often, but I'll say it again. Islam was founded primarily to destroy especially human beings. Withholding medicines to human beings is simply another way to destroy human beings. Notice that when things that are good for human beings, Islam abhors it if it can find a way to get away with it.
Example, beautiful music uplifts the human soul. What happens here? Islam hates it and makes all kinds of foolish, hateful excuses, and restrains people from listening to it. And since beautiful music has been composed by "infidels," their hatred increases.
In this case, concerning medicines, Islam restrains people from using them because our medicines can same lives. Does Islam want to save lives? Hell no!! Remember, Islam was established for the express purpose to destroy human lives. And when Islam can't destroy lives, it at least suppresses it. Hence, Islamists, of the religion of hatred, suppresses women they best way they can until the evil Muslims find a way to murder them. When the Islamists think they can get away with it, they'll stone women to death.
Islam destroys children simply because children are the most vulnerable. Believe me, if children weren't so vulnerable, Islam wouldn't destroy as many.
Let's not forget that Islam did not come from the True God, the God of Love, the God of Christians and Jews. The True God gave us beautiful laws such as: "You shall not kill." "You shall not commit adultery," and many more beautiful laws that would create concord among a society that is ready to obey such laws.
On the other hand, the god of Muslims is Satan/Allah that taught the complete opposite of everything that is good for human beings. It taught to kill, for example, "Slay the unbelievers wherever you catch them," (Sura 2 Verse 191).
Satan/Allah gave permission to Muslims to rape, commit legalized adultery, to practice legalized prostitution. Paedophile Muhammed raped a child. Lecherous old Muslims rape children legally. Polygamy is legalized prostitution and legalized adultery. You and other readers are intelligent. The story of the cruelty of Islam is very, very, long. But little by little, readers will learn that in the final analysis, Islam was established primarily to destroy human lives either directly or indirectly.
May Muhammad and his obstinate followers drown drinking his potion, camel piss. Is camel piss good for you? Of course not. Remember, Islam was established for the express purpose to harm especially human beings in one way or another. Have a good day everyone.
May the True God, the God of Love bless you, and may Satan/Allah go to hell where he belongs.
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August 06, 2008
The Quran is clear that comsuming alcohol is not good for you and anyone hungover can relate to that. However, There is no logic in not using any sanitary hand cleaners, hairspray or gels, or other tolietries for hygenic puropses that aide cleanliness or appearance that wont intoxicate you. These people need to get with the program. It was water sanitation, hygene and education that curbed most of the deadly childhood diseases, we cant stop now or let some idiotic BS idioligy impede that progress.
Great Article !
Great Article !
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August 06, 2008
Hugo White, Cassandra, and all other nice people, I don't think Barack Hussein Obama will become our "leader." It fact, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a landslide in John McCain's favor. Okay, I'll say it: McCain will win unless something drastic happens.
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August 06, 2008
Circe....very good article! You can bet that whatever is happening OS in western hospitals would be reflected in our own.
Well I know what I will be doing next time I have to visit one of our Labor run hospitals. I will be telling them that I refuse to be treated by any Muslim!
Philip.....yes I agree, McCain is the man for President. Too many people are now seeing through Oabama.
Well I know what I will be doing next time I have to visit one of our Labor run hospitals. I will be telling them that I refuse to be treated by any Muslim!
Philip.....yes I agree, McCain is the man for President. Too many people are now seeing through Oabama.
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August 06, 2008
Circe,
What alarms me is that the Queensland Government has done a magnificent job in destroying the health system without any help from muslims!
The hygiene issue is one we have been monitoring in UK hospitals and the thought of muslims obeying their filthy Quran and not sanitizing themselves is alarming.
Nemesis, I am with you. Next time I visit a hospital I definately dont want any muslim around me, or feeding me Halal food by stealth!
The oath that doctors take is one I will pursue further because I cant believe we will tolerate oaths to suit ones religion.
Circe, thanks for alerting us to this very real danger, and I will write to both state and Federal ministers demanding answers.
Philip, we are all praying here that Obama does not get the top job.
What alarms me is that the Queensland Government has done a magnificent job in destroying the health system without any help from muslims!
The hygiene issue is one we have been monitoring in UK hospitals and the thought of muslims obeying their filthy Quran and not sanitizing themselves is alarming.
Nemesis, I am with you. Next time I visit a hospital I definately dont want any muslim around me, or feeding me Halal food by stealth!
The oath that doctors take is one I will pursue further because I cant believe we will tolerate oaths to suit ones religion.
Circe, thanks for alerting us to this very real danger, and I will write to both state and Federal ministers demanding answers.
Philip, we are all praying here that Obama does not get the top job.
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August 06, 2008
I just hope that what Philip says about McCain is true.
In many cases it is the "lefty" media, who confuse the issue, and make the impression that McCain virtually vanished from the battle field.
In many cases it is the "lefty" media, who confuse the issue, and make the impression that McCain virtually vanished from the battle field.
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August 06, 2008
While Britain is more dimmi than dishwater. It will do anything to appease the islamic agenda even the archbishop of cantebury is calling for the implementing of sharia law in parts of Britain now I am wondering do we still want to be like the old country
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August 06, 2008
I think Muslim Only hospitals are long time overdue.
Creeping apartheid.
Creeping apartheid.
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August 06, 2008
Circe,
This is an alarming article, which should be sent round to everyone in authority in the field, including hospital boards, ministers for health and university medical departments.
Islam is a health hazard, and not just from terror, but from their flagrant disregard of our health and safety rules.
Philip,
I sincerely hope you are right about Obama. It's clear that Obama has lied to the American people about never having been a Muslim, has allied with those who hate America and stayed in a church with links to Nation of Islam.
Sienna,
I'm not wondering at all. I know we in Australia don't want to go the way of England. So much for the line "Britain never never never will be slaves".
They are already!
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August 07, 2008
This is frightening Circe. If we are suddenly taken to hospital, how do we know we will not be treated by people with sterilized clean hands? I have survived some near death experiences in my life and this was due to modern medicine and cleanliness of our hospitals. If I had been born in a Muslim country, I can state with utmost certainty I would be dead by now.
This is a case where I think the 'Muslims only'idea might be useful and 'Muslim only hospitals' be introduced with preferred styles of cleanliness used in each.
Are we allowed to state in a public hospital , that we have 'problems' with a Muslim nurse treating us, or is that hate-speech? Is there any precedent for this?
This is a case where I think the 'Muslims only'idea might be useful and 'Muslim only hospitals' be introduced with preferred styles of cleanliness used in each.
Are we allowed to state in a public hospital , that we have 'problems' with a Muslim nurse treating us, or is that hate-speech? Is there any precedent for this?
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August 07, 2008
Dear Wendy, I agree --we should be able to refuse to have Muslim carers. I don't want a Muslim male who follows the paedophile muhammad ever touching my little girl. How could you trust them if they took her away for treatment! And I don't want someone wearing a dirty hijab and long sleeves or someone who has been sliding on the floor supposedly praying coming anywhere near myself or anyone in the family who is sick!!
I'm fed up with muslim behaviour and demands!
I'm fed up with muslim behaviour and demands!
12
August 07, 2008
I have checked with medico friends and been told that anyone who doesn’t scrub properly before entering theatre (operating theatre) doesn’t get in---but what happens when it’s a Muslim supervising and a Muslim female in long sleeves doesn’t scrub properly---who would know? Ditto for Muslims on wards, hijabed ‘healthcarers’ and visitors particularly those covered head-to-toe in folds of material. Muslim attitudes to others, dress, health practices and aims to Islamize everything are cause for concern. Even politically correct WHO has linked the spread of infection with Muslim practices!
Many of our overseas trained doctors come from Islamic nations or countries with significant Muslim populations eg India. I have travelled with 2 Australian theatre sisters who worked recently for years in Saudi Arabia and will tell horror tales of their medicine including a surgeon trying to put a heart in backwards----but no doubt that surgeon would be highly recommended if he wanted to immigrate here and who would check him here as apparently our doctors from overseas aren’t ‘adequately’ supervised!!!
It’s essential that Australia doesn’t make any allowances for Muslims and ensures that medicine is not Islamized or compromised to suit Islam---no ‘religious’ apartheid medicine, no special treatment for Muslims—staff, patients or visitors!! Can we trust our pro-Islam state or federal governments or our short-staffed hospitals and regional health services to do this or will hospital stays become deadly!! As Muslim numbers and infiltration of government and healthcare increase their demands also increase so don’t be lulled into a false sense of security, look at Britain, parts of Europe and even the US!!
Dear Geoff--it would be great to hear the response!
Hate speech---this is a problem when instead of the dangerous hate speech of Islam being exposed and censured, it's the people who try to expose Islam that are silenced while Islam continues its vile preaching and lying in the complete knowledge that there will be no challenge!! This is what happened with Victoria's racial and religious vilification laws---those who tell the truth about evil Islam are gagged!!!
Many of our overseas trained doctors come from Islamic nations or countries with significant Muslim populations eg India. I have travelled with 2 Australian theatre sisters who worked recently for years in Saudi Arabia and will tell horror tales of their medicine including a surgeon trying to put a heart in backwards----but no doubt that surgeon would be highly recommended if he wanted to immigrate here and who would check him here as apparently our doctors from overseas aren’t ‘adequately’ supervised!!!
It’s essential that Australia doesn’t make any allowances for Muslims and ensures that medicine is not Islamized or compromised to suit Islam---no ‘religious’ apartheid medicine, no special treatment for Muslims—staff, patients or visitors!! Can we trust our pro-Islam state or federal governments or our short-staffed hospitals and regional health services to do this or will hospital stays become deadly!! As Muslim numbers and infiltration of government and healthcare increase their demands also increase so don’t be lulled into a false sense of security, look at Britain, parts of Europe and even the US!!
Dear Geoff--it would be great to hear the response!
Hate speech---this is a problem when instead of the dangerous hate speech of Islam being exposed and censured, it's the people who try to expose Islam that are silenced while Islam continues its vile preaching and lying in the complete knowledge that there will be no challenge!! This is what happened with Victoria's racial and religious vilification laws---those who tell the truth about evil Islam are gagged!!!
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August 07, 2008
Will they fail to promote non-Muslims?
Non- Muslims are not supposed to be in charge of Muslims. PERIOD
Non- Muslims are not supposed to be in charge of Muslims. PERIOD
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August 08, 2008
Under no circumstance should Muslims be employed in our medical institutions without a clear statement rejecting ALL Islamic "science" and practices.
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August 09, 2008
Why do we need to hire anyone to ‘address the issue’ - it should be a matter of law and those who blatantly risk the lives of others must be charged.
CIRCE - We’ve already got cases where known AIDS carriers are banned from deliberate spreading of their disease. In fact, last week saw the successful prosecution of a Melbourne man who knowingly had sex with multiple partners, with the intention of spreading the disease. There is one other case ‘pending’, involving a grateful refugee, also.
Sexual conduct and the choice of partner is NOT a public issue, in terms of it being under Government control, except in situations of communicable disease, but our Hospitals and Public Health agencies ARE fully under the control of authority.
Australia has set, or met, International standards of health care, for many, many decades. We have seen the eradication of most of the “childhood diseases” through our intensive Inoculation programs.
What had plagued earlier Australia became a distant memory, an achievement we can all be proud of and which we must resolutely maintain.
Our migration program, post WW2 insisted on the same for new Aussies…. who all complied, apparently with no detriment to their well-being. On the contrary.
I don’t have “statistics” but I have a plethora of anecdotal references from friends in the Health field, my two years as a nurse, and from my own 21 month Hospitalisation over 2000/2002.
Seeing with my own eyes how standards of hygiene have fallen and how procedure is blatantly disregarded was horrifying, literally. People said to me, after my 3 months in a Thai Hospital, that I must be glad to be back in an Australian Hospital? Well, I didn’t get MRSA in Thailand!
Nor should we spend a fortune trying to find some acceptable alternative for Muslims - it’s time they were treated like everyone else. How dare Muslims believe themselves and their obscene religion to be above any consideration of others!!
It used to be that vaccination was compulsory for migrants. It needs to be still. Muslims come from countries that have notoriously poor health outcomes. That is not my preconceived “prejudice” speaking, but an observable and verifiable fact.
The “good life” in Australia comes at a cost, if having good health is a “cost”. If you want to live with us, you cannot infect us, either through ignorance or ideological persuasion. If you object, “there is no compulsion in emigration”!
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Nemesis
Well I know what I will be doing next time I have to visit one of our Labor run hospitals. I will be telling them that I refuse to be treated by any Muslim!
Dude
Under no circumstance should Muslims be employed in our medical institutions without a clear statement rejecting ALL Islamic "science" and practices.
In fact, I do just that, much to the consternation of the lefties who make up the staff at our local Hospital. I will not allow a Muslim doctor to treat me. Period. I can no longer afford to run the risk of further infection. My immune system is compromised enough and I refuse to allow a political contrivance to affect my health.
No Muslim doctors in Australia? Well, we can’t afford not to take that stance. Our lives depend on it.
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August 10, 2008
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