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Public Lecture on Islamic Science

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Before I talk about the speaker at the next public lecture at Melbourne University, I would like to make a few observations.  

Islamic Science1.    I am puzzled by the title ‘Islamic science’, as I believe science, the pursuit of knowledge based on evidence, belongs to all of us. We do not have Hindu, Christian or Jewish science, so why have Islamic science? Admittedly we have Hindus, Christians and Jews who are scientists, but they are continuing the tradition of rational enquiry, which has in former times been in opposition to religion - one only has to think of Galileo as an example. But the world’s great scientists, from Isaac Newton to Thomas Edison to Albert Einstein, were not acting in the name of religion, but out of a quest to expand the boundaries of human knowledge.

2.    If the subject is science, why is it not taught in the Science Department? It seems odd that it is taught as a religious subject, when the speaker has an honours degree in science from an Australian University. He also has a PhD on Islamic Studies.

3.    If there is no decline in Islamic science, how come there are hardly any Muslim Nobel Prize winners in the sciences, only for “Peace” and these as we know are highly politicised - just look at jihadi Yasser Arafaat!
The Myth of the Decline of Islamic Science
Thursday 31 July 2008 @ 06:30 pm - 07:30 pm
Theatre E, Old Arts Building (bldg 149), Parkville


‘There is a conventional view that Islamic science declined after the eleventh century. The aim of this lecture is to debunk the decline theory by examining the work of the fourteenth century sociologist Ibn Khaldun and contemporary evidence in the fields of astronomy in Syria and Persia.’
 
What decline??? 

Dr Mohamad Abdalla is the Founding Director of the Islamic Research Unit at Griffith University and specialises in the history of Islamic science, as well as Islam in Australia, Islamic ethics, history of Islamic civilisation and contextualisation of Islamic thought.

Sounds impressive. Let’s look at his Islamic ethics record.

Griffith University offered the Saudi embassy an opportunity to reshape the Griffith Islamic Research Unit during its campaign to get some "extra noughts" added to Saudi cheques.

The Saudi Government is believed to have funnelled at least $120m into Australia since the 1970s to bankroll radical clerics, build mosques and propagate hardline Islam, Wahabbism, espoused by al-Qaeda.
 
Professor Homel admitted:
"Mohamad Abdalla and his colleagues in the Islamic Research Unit are always looking for funds…so the Saudi funding was one of a number of sources of funding.“ 
He defended the Saudi grant, saying it would help fund research scholarships at the Islamic centre, promote moderate Islam and supplement the salary of the body's director, Mohammad Abdullah.   Despite Homel maintaining the Saudis had no control over how the funding was to be spent, documents reveal that vice-chancellor O'Connor offered the embassy a chance to "discuss ways" in which the money could be used. 

Abdalla also assured the Saudis' that their financial contribution could be kept secret.
James Cook University's Mervyn Bendle attacked Griffith University for accepting the money and accused the Saudi embassy of wanting to promote hardline Islam.
"Australian universities using such funds threaten not only the traditional values of academic freedom and scholarship but also threaten our moderate Muslim communities."

An email exchange between Dr Abdalla’s Centre and business development manager, Jenny Wilson, congratulates him on obtaining the $100,000 cheque, believed to be the first payment towards an expected $1.37m grant sought by the university. 
"Congratulations Mohamad," she writes "Now how do we get the extra noughts on this cheque."  (source)
 
Sinister Muslim - abdallaAbdalla gives many talks, such as Jihad: Does it Mean a Perpetual Warfare?
 
One of the fundamental assumptions of those who advocate a clash of civilization between Islam and the West is the proposition that Islam is a religion that advocates perpetual warfare, known as Jihad. The aim of this paper is to show that Jihad has a broader meaning and implications than commonly held in the West. If Western ideologues and policymakers fail to recognize this fact, then tragic misunderstanding will create the possibility for catastrophic wars, which could render the Islamic heartland an uninhabitable waste and greatly increase the likelihood of attacks against the United States and its allies, and affect their interest abroad. (source)

So if we don’t accept Islam’s definition of jihad, our misunderstanding could lead to attacks against the West. Sounds like a threat to me!

When Abdullah gives radio or TV interviews, he presents an attitude of hurt indignation, invariably blaming Australians for Islamic sins and demanding more goodwill towards Islam to prevent Muslims  radicalising. In one interview just after the London bombings, when asked if John Howard was fear-mongering about Muslims, he replied
“Not only the Prime Minister, I think there is a general sense of creating a culture of fear and this in itself is dangerous; if we want to create a sustainable, pluralistic, multicultural society…we should realise that we are all Australians, but pointing the finger at a particular community and a particular society is not conducive to bringing harmony.” (source)

At a summit convened by John Howard with Islamic leaders to tackle the issue of Islamic extremism, he whinged:

"We agreed to condemn terrorism a long, long time ago, the community has already done that, by and large, and is still doing that," adding that an agreement to encourage Muslims to become loyal citizens was insulting. "Muslims are already loyal citizens of Australia. The fact that they have lived for the [past] 100 years or so in peaceful coexistence here, well integrated and with tolerance, is testament to that." (source)

He is also a media darling, widely praised for his outreach to non-Muslims, as this ABC transcript attests:
“While many Australian Muslims may feel distress at the level of Islamophobia in Australian culture, at least one community is taking steps to change public perceptions about Islam. In September 2001, a couple of weeks after the World Trade Center attacks in New York, a mosque in the Brisbane suburb of Kuraby was firebombed and burnt to the ground. It was a particularly virulent expression of anti-Muslim sentiment, but since then, hopes for dialogue and mutual understanding Believe it or ELSE!!have risen from the ashes of the old mosque."
In 2003, the rebuilt Kuraby mosque was awarded a $30,000 Living in Harmony Community Grant by the Federal Government. The money has gone into turning the mosque into a local education centre. Open days at the mosque have been a big success, as well as interfaith meetings and discussion groups, and the mosque leaders have been getting out into the community and taking the message of moderate Islam on the road.
David Rutledge: You’ve been very active in forging links between the Muslim and the non-Muslim community, educating people about Islam, but to what extent are you a rarity among Muslim leaders in doing that?

Mohamad Abdalla: I think it is uncommon, unfortunately, to find many people having the time and the resources to try to bridge the gap between the Islamic community and the non-Islamic community. And it is unfortunate that we were forced to go and do that after 9/11... we should have always felt that we are part and parcel of the Australian community and that our faith should not stop us from going out there and explaining to people. It’s not about conversion, it’s not about forcing people into the faith, it is just to create understanding which leads to harmony and leads to a better pluralistic society.

David Rutledge: I recently spoke with Nahid Kabir who published a book last year on Muslims in Australia, and she talked about the feeling of unease that pervades Muslim communities all over Australia. She’s been travelling around the country, and she’s finding many, many stories of suspicion, vilification, sometimes outright abuse. I mean your story in Brisbane is a good news story, but I wonder if you feel that it’s really too soon yet to say that Australian Muslims can begin to go about their business without feeling conspicuous or paranoid.
Mohamad Abdalla: Certainly Muslims have a sense of being uncomfortable. I mean I’ve been here for the last 19 years and the only time I felt I don’t belong any more was the day after 9/11, but I did not allow that to stop me from doing what I have to do, in fact the first day of 9/11 I went to university, dressed the way I dress, and I could feel, I mean you could cut through the atmosphere, you could feel it, but I said to myself, I didn’t do it, I’m not the one who has done that tragedy, I’m not a criminal, therefore I should not allow that to stop me. Yes, there have been many instances where people are abused, there are many instances of racial and religious vilification (source)
While he appears as the “moderate” voice of Islam, in reality he is a PR person for the political Islamic movement, spreading deception about the true nature of Islam. However, our naïve leaders have invited him to sit on numerous committees, boards and government bodies. Perhaps the most damning evidence about him came in April this year, when Muslim community figures, including Islamic leader Fadi Rahman, claimed Abdalla was the Brisbane leader of Tablighi Jamaat, whose overseas members have been linked to al-Qaeda and the 2005 London bombings.

Griffith University denied Dr Abdalla was a Tablighi leader, and defended the group.
"Based on advice we have received from a number of Queensland Muslim organisations, the group Tablighi Jamaat is not a sect, is not secretive, is not political, is not violent…It is in fact a peaceful movement with the social justice aim of helping Muslims become better Muslims. “
The university said Dr Abdalla had in the past week received strong support from Queensland Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson, Anti-Discrimination Commissioner Susan Booth and leaders from both the Jewish and Christian communities of Brisbane.

(That doesn’t reassure me - we know what dhimmis and useful idiots many Jewish and Christian leaders are.)
 
Ameer Ali said Tablighi's non-violent teachings about the importance of the afterlife had left some young followers susceptible to recruitment by terrorist outfits as suicide-bombers.
"They are not violent, they don't preach violence. But their mind is set - they've prepared the minds of the youngsters who can be trapped by the jihadis and terrorists…so when the jihadis say are you prepared to go to heaven ... it carries with their thinking because they are not interested in this world, they believe (their) future is in the next world." (source)
Islamic science at its best!! 

So with this sort of background, is Abdalla really the sort of person to be lecturing impressionable students at one of our most prestigious universities?

What do readers think?
  
Last Updated on Thursday, 07 August 2008 13:08  

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