France’s highest court has denied French citizenship to 32-year-old Faiza Mabchour, a Moroccan woman who wears a burka, on the grounds she had failed to integrate. After moving to France in 2000, following her marriage to a French citizen of North African origin, she converted to Salafism. She attended interviews with state officials:"clothed from head to toe in the clothing of women from the Arabian Peninsula, with a veil covering her hair, forehead and chin and a piece of cloth over her face. Her eyes could only be seen through a small slit…
She lives virtually as a recluse, disconnected from French society and in total subservience to the men in her family."
A leading Muslim minister in Sarkozy's Government, Fadela Amara, condemned the burka as:
"... a prison and a straitjacket...it is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy."
She sees it as incompatible with French values of secularism, democracy and sexual equality, and believes
all Islamic coverings are symbols of oppression.
"The veil and the burka are the same thing. The only difference is a few centimetres of fabric."
The court decision has drawn approval from both Left and Right, highlighting a rejection of Muslim customs that conflict with the values of the secular French republic. (source)
The burka can also pose a security risk, as when Yassin Omar, charged after the 21/7 attacks on London transport, dressed in traditional Islamic dress to escape the police. (reference)
Or when a man wanted for the murder of policewoman Sharon Beshenivsky fled the UK using his sister’s passport and wearing a full-length niqab veil. The Daily Telegraph suggested such an escape was possible due to the misguided acceptance of a form of dress that can make gender unrecognisable. (reference)
Only this week (26/07/08), female suicide bombers struck Shiite pilgrims in Baghdad, killing at least 57 people. It was reported:
“Insurgents increasingly use female bombers because their billowing, black robes easily hide explosives and they are less likely to be searched.”
The late great Pamela Bone supported banning the burka, but not the veil (simply because she feared a ban would add to Muslims’ feelings of alienation and victimhood.) Contemplating whether the hijab conflicted with Australian values, she believed women covering their hair so as not to provoke feelings of "lust" in men did conflict with our view that men are responsible for controlling their sexual urges.
She rightly saw the burqa as a symbol of female oppression which:
She rightly saw the burqa as a symbol of female oppression which:
“does not belong in a society like this, and the women who freely choose to wear it are displaying as much insensitivity as would a Western woman wearing skimpy clothes in a Muslim country… burqa-clad women should not be teaching children — even in Islamic schools, which are supported by public money — because of the message it gives.” (source)
Much as I admired Pamela Bone’s great courage, in matters Islamic, I would defer to Fadela Amara’s viewpoint, that all Islamic coverings are symbols of oppression "The veil and the burka are the same thing. The only difference is a few centimetres of fabric."
In The Age, James Button pondered the issue:
“A country has denied citizenship to someone who has not committed a crime, rejected the nation's law or failed to learn the language, but because of her private beliefs.”
Wrong, Mr Button! In adopting salafism, she HAS rejected our laws.
Trevor Stanley, of Global Terrorism Analysis, explains the ideological heritage of groups such as al-Qaeda is Salafism, a movement that began in Egypt and was imported into Saudi society. (reference)
Surely you are not suggesting that al-Qaeda accepts our laws! And remember how CAIR’s representative stated "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant," which goes against our laws of non-discrimination and religious pluralism.
Walid Phares decries the Western tendancy to underplay the danger of salafism:
“These arch-Jihadists are believers in the restoration of the Caliphate aimed at establishing aTaliban regime in Algeria, as a prelude for a worldwide campaign for Jihadism. Unfortunately, the way some in academia and media describes the Jihadists as "solely" dedicated to fight local government wrongly inform the audiences… .all Salafists, like all Jihadis, are international in essence… Salafist’s action is centered on Takfir, a belief that any Muslim who does not embrace strict, medieval codes of conduct is an apostate deserving of death.”
“While it is true that Salafists born in Europe… are motivated to join the network, the reason behind it is deeper than just a so-called "Islamic anger over conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel." The reasons to join are a conviction that they are joining the Jihad, and pleasing Allah. They have been conditioned to see the world as a struggle between infidels and Islam… Jihadists who have never been to Palestine side with Hamas; those who have never seen the jungles of the Philippines side with Abu Sayyiaf; those who were born in Algeria and were shooting policemen and journalists decided suddenly to travel to Chechnya to behead Russian soldiers and shoot children in Beslan. (source)
But back to Button, who feels that, unlike the lawyer banned from court, or the teacher dismissed for wearing the niqab, whose public roles were impaired by the inability to see their faces:
“ Mrs Silmi is not a public figure…. Surely, her human rights, including the right to religious freedom, allow her to wear whatever she likes?"
Despite worrying the decision.” might incite racist assaults” and “ risk compounding their sense of alienation” he concludes the court was correct to “penalise her for behaviour that is not evidently harming anyone, in the name of a greater good.”
While Button disagrees with the French ban on hijabs in schools:
“ the burqa is another matter. It signals either an intention to be separate, or that the woman lives in a prison. The idea that she cannot be seen because she might provoke male desire is absurd and unacceptable. More than that, though, the face is the means by which we recognise each other as human. In effect, the court has said that Mrs Silmi's rights are outweighed by the rights of others to see her… if she wishes to be a French citizen, she must take part in society, at least by showing her face.” (source)
I would argue Mrs Silmi’s rights have been taken away by her husband, who follows a patriarchal system which treats women as slaves.
How does it feel to be covered from head to toe? To find out, Elisabeth Wynhausen entered the world of a devout Muslim woman for half a day, wearing the full-length black cloak and headscarf and niqab:
“I stifled the impulse to tear off the uncomfortable, intensely constricting garments, which were so physically constraining that they gave me the sense of confining my spirit.
Women from the Muslim world sometimes say that being behind the veil is liberating because they can go where they like and do as they like without being identified, but that is a freedom a Western woman may take for granted. Instead I found that even on a mild spring day, the outfit was suffocatingly hot.
The cloak restricted my movements. The veil restricted my vision. The straps pressed on my eyeballs. With my head swaddled in cloth and my face covered, I felt I could scarcely breathe. The sense that I had become an alien being was more oppressive still.”
And you thought torture was outlawed in the West!
Ask yourselves, is this what you want for the women and girls in your life?
If so, I have no hesitation in calling you a callous and depraved individual.
Veils could also pose a public health danger:
“The challenge of driving in the traffic squinting through the veil meant I was too focused on the road to do more than sense the stares of other drivers.. .I was still clutching at the abaya every minute or two, my anxiety about tripping over the garment alternating with fear that it would get caught in the machinery of the escalator.” (source)
How about a new slogan “IF YOU VEIL AND DRIVE, YOU’RE A BLOODY IDIOT!”
In Australia only a tiny minority of Muslim women wear veils. Muslim convert Rabiyah Hutchison, former wife of alleged Jemaah Islamiah leader in Australia Abdul Rahim Ayub and mother of two of the terrorism suspects charged in Yemen. (see Sluts ‘R’ us - Jihad Sheilas) is one terrorist-endorsing “role model.”
For a detailed discussion of the text and full significance of hijab, see:
Hijab - Part 4 - 01/10/07
Hijab - Part 3 - 22/09/07
Hijab - Part 2 - 17/09/07
Hijab - Part 1 - 12/09/07
So is wearing the burka incompatible with Australian citizenship?
Let’s look at the responsibilities of citizenship. Citizens are required to:
1. obey Australian laws
Islam requires obedience to its laws. Australia’s concept of equality is unacceptable to Islam - non-believers
cannot be the equal of the Muslims and women are subservient to men.
2. enrol on Federal and state/territory electoral registers
Muslims must obey Islamic text and tradition, as the Qur’an and hadiths are the immutable word of God, and can never be changed. The idea of a consitution that can be amended or laws which can be changed is contrary to the principles of Islam.
3. vote in elections
Enrolling and voting implies participating in our democracy, rule by elected representatives of the people.
In Islam, power belongs only to God, so rule by men is forbidden.
4. defend Australia should the need arise
Muslims’ loyalty is to the umma, not to the country in which they are living. Even wondered why when Australia and its allies take action overseas e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan, or agree on certain matters e.g. containing Iran’s nuclear ambitions, Islamists and their useful idiot supporters oppose it.
Notice how British-born Muslims express loyalty to Islam, not the country that they grew up in and which gave them many advantages. Look at the 7/7 bombers, who were not poor or disadvantaged, but hated Britain.
5. serve on a jury if called to do so.
This implies recognising the jurisdiction of our Courts, whereas Islam aims to replace Australis’s laws with sharia, administered by sharia courts. (reference)
For all these reasons, Islam and the burka are incompatible with democracy. To repeat Fadela Amara’s words, the burka " is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy."
Just remember - you are being deceived
So next time you are invited to an interfaith Islamic frolic, or an Islamic fashion show or watch Salaam Café with smiling hijabbed women, just remember you are being deceived. And public schools like Wellington Secondary College, which design hijabs for its students, are not being tolerant but are aiding Islamic apartheid (see The Islamization of our schools )
I applaud the French decision. My only quibble is why they granted citizenship to the husband, under whose rules the woman wore this degrading garment which imprisoned her wherever she went, whilst he was free to walked in the fresh air.
We should not, under the guise of freedom of religion, grant a licence to violent ideologies like salafism and other forms of Islamism which are now flooding our universities and attracting immense amounts of government funding. Any form of Islam which imposes halal food, sharia finance, hijab, separate prayer rooms and toilets for Muslims on campus is Islamist , and poses a danger to all Australians, including
those Muslims who have come here to escape Islam.
For the sake of freedom and equality, let’s deny Australian citizenship to Islamists.
Say NO to sharia!
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The Muslim burqa is flappy, ugly, weird, scary, dangerous, and silly. Most of all, the burqa is dangerous. Lately, stupid Muslim women, while practicing their religion of Islam, have blown themselves to smithereens in the middle of innocent crowds. But why is the burqa most dangerous. It's much easier to hide a bomb in an ugly, flappy burqa than in a man's shirt or pants. Muslim women scare citizens just by wearing the ugly burqa. Now, fear of Muslim burqa wearers has increased because it's easy to hide deadly bombs in burqas.
My suggestion is to force these misguided women idiots to join our civilized society and dress properly. Hiding in an ugly, flappy, scary burqa isn't the answer. Most of all, I wish these Muslim women idiots would dump their Muslim War Manual, the filthy Qur'an, into a dumpster somewhere. It's horrible that these Muslim women are blindly complying with a fatalistic Islamic doctrine. It doesn't pay to be an authentic Muslim.
With Muslim men, it's mostly sex, sex, sex, kill, kill, kill. But with Muslim women, it's mostly kill, kill, kill. Why do these blind, hateful, fatalistic, fanatical, stupid Muslims kill, kill, kill? Answer: The Muslim War Manual, the filthy Qur'an, goads these deluded, ignorant Muslims to kill. Example: "Be ruthless to the infidels," (Sura 48 Verse 29). Are the evil Muslims "ruthless"? The evil Muslims are exceedingly ruthless! Like blind sheep, they comply with the doctrine given to them by paedophile, child molester Muhammad. Hey, Muslim women, were you, too, promised to receive 72 virgins and 28 prepubescent boys after blowing yourselves up? What kind of a deal do you Muslim women get by blowing yourselves to smithereens? You will not get 72 virgins even if you are lesbians. Stupid Muslims, paedophile Muhammad lied to you. Why did you fall for an idiot like the murderer, lecher, Muhammad?
I know what will happen in my country if stupid Muslim women hide bombs in their burqas and then blow themselves up in the middle of a crowd. We will make them dress like decent women. If Muslim women commit grievous crimes killing American people, Muslim burqa wearing will be outlawed.
My suggestion is to force these misguided women idiots to join our civilized society and dress properly. Hiding in an ugly, flappy, scary burqa isn't the answer. Most of all, I wish these Muslim women idiots would dump their Muslim War Manual, the filthy Qur'an, into a dumpster somewhere. It's horrible that these Muslim women are blindly complying with a fatalistic Islamic doctrine. It doesn't pay to be an authentic Muslim.
With Muslim men, it's mostly sex, sex, sex, kill, kill, kill. But with Muslim women, it's mostly kill, kill, kill. Why do these blind, hateful, fatalistic, fanatical, stupid Muslims kill, kill, kill? Answer: The Muslim War Manual, the filthy Qur'an, goads these deluded, ignorant Muslims to kill. Example: "Be ruthless to the infidels," (Sura 48 Verse 29). Are the evil Muslims "ruthless"? The evil Muslims are exceedingly ruthless! Like blind sheep, they comply with the doctrine given to them by paedophile, child molester Muhammad. Hey, Muslim women, were you, too, promised to receive 72 virgins and 28 prepubescent boys after blowing yourselves up? What kind of a deal do you Muslim women get by blowing yourselves to smithereens? You will not get 72 virgins even if you are lesbians. Stupid Muslims, paedophile Muhammad lied to you. Why did you fall for an idiot like the murderer, lecher, Muhammad?
I know what will happen in my country if stupid Muslim women hide bombs in their burqas and then blow themselves up in the middle of a crowd. We will make them dress like decent women. If Muslim women commit grievous crimes killing American people, Muslim burqa wearing will be outlawed.
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August 01, 2008
Cassandra,
A great article. I feel that our government should ban the burka here in Australia. As was said in the article, the face is how we recognize people. How can we recognize these women if we can't see their faces. Who prevents men dressing up in Burka's pretending to be women and committing crimes ie armed hold ups.
You can not enter a bank in Australia wearing a motor bike helmet as it is a security risk, what makes a burka any different.
Why don't I wear a balaclava while I walk around the streets. After all I can technically wear what I want in public. I am sure that there would be a number of complaints from the public to the Police that I am getting around in a balaclava so why not complain about these women who get around in Burkas. If they want to wear a burka or niqab, then stay in the Middle East, you are not welcome here in Australia if you can't show your face.
We generally are a tolerant country, however we can be TOO tolerant when it comes to these issues.
A great article. I feel that our government should ban the burka here in Australia. As was said in the article, the face is how we recognize people. How can we recognize these women if we can't see their faces. Who prevents men dressing up in Burka's pretending to be women and committing crimes ie armed hold ups.
You can not enter a bank in Australia wearing a motor bike helmet as it is a security risk, what makes a burka any different.
Why don't I wear a balaclava while I walk around the streets. After all I can technically wear what I want in public. I am sure that there would be a number of complaints from the public to the Police that I am getting around in a balaclava so why not complain about these women who get around in Burkas. If they want to wear a burka or niqab, then stay in the Middle East, you are not welcome here in Australia if you can't show your face.
We generally are a tolerant country, however we can be TOO tolerant when it comes to these issues.
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August 01, 2008
Philip....its going to take an incident as you have described to force the issue of women being permitted to completely cover themselves in public.
I wonder how James Button got his job. Talk about semantics!
Cassandra....this is a good post. Not only does it expose the stupidity of women being compelled to wear something like the burqua in our summer weather, it also exposes the arrogance of the mindset that is Islam, to the greater public.
Terry
I wonder how James Button got his job. Talk about semantics!
Cassandra....this is a good post. Not only does it expose the stupidity of women being compelled to wear something like the burqua in our summer weather, it also exposes the arrogance of the mindset that is Islam, to the greater public.
Terry
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August 01, 2008
It would be interesting to try a litle reverse psychology with these muslim fools .Lets say instead of advocating laws to combat this prehistoric fashion why not bring in a law makeing it compulsary for every Muslim women to wear the full head to toe niqab.And not only the women but the Muslim men as well .Then they too can experience the beautifull liberating feeling so appreciated by their womenfolk . Furthermore they would then be safe from all those lustfull women out there .
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August 01, 2008
Just banning the headscarf in schools and the workplace and government offices will have a far greater effect on moderating "extremism" than most realize - the burka is central in the subjugation of women in islam
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August 02, 2008
Spot on Swallow. Obviously the more black rags can be seen the more evidence there is to hide from the kuffar about women abuse.
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August 02, 2008
Swallow....please take this comment as tongue in cheek.
'Burqas are for hiding bruises.'
It just goes to show how much more violent the Men are in Islamic society than in the west, because, sunglasses used to do the job of covering up the husbands violence!
Terry
'Burqas are for hiding bruises.'
It just goes to show how much more violent the Men are in Islamic society than in the west, because, sunglasses used to do the job of covering up the husbands violence!
Terry
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August 02, 2008
I am all for them wearing their sack, it must be lovely in the Australian heat, black attracts the sunlight. There are reports of increased vit A deficiency because of it in England. Coupled with the massive increase in birth defects as a result of the first cousin marriage, Darwin's theories
may well be proven once gain.
may well be proven once gain.
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August 02, 2008
Terry and others,
I just heard from a Christian Lebanese friend of mine that a group of Muslims have bought the Dooralong Valley resort on the NSW Central Coast. I was born and raised here and so were my 3 children. I just shuddered to the bone when I heard this as it brought back visions of Camden.
I can only think that if what I am told is true then I am sure that they will be pushing for a mosque or Islamic School. They have already purchased many holiday properties around the Entrance and Terrigal and completly invade the Central Coast on Weekends and holidays. I am very fearful that this may be true and what will become of the Central Coast.
Can someone give me some advice as to how I miht find out if this is true and how I let our community know.
I knew after Camden failed that they would eventually come this way. It was just a matter of time.
I just heard from a Christian Lebanese friend of mine that a group of Muslims have bought the Dooralong Valley resort on the NSW Central Coast. I was born and raised here and so were my 3 children. I just shuddered to the bone when I heard this as it brought back visions of Camden.
I can only think that if what I am told is true then I am sure that they will be pushing for a mosque or Islamic School. They have already purchased many holiday properties around the Entrance and Terrigal and completly invade the Central Coast on Weekends and holidays. I am very fearful that this may be true and what will become of the Central Coast.
Can someone give me some advice as to how I miht find out if this is true and how I let our community know.
I knew after Camden failed that they would eventually come this way. It was just a matter of time.
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August 02, 2008
Cassandra, another excellent topic!
"France’s highest court has denied French citizenship to 32-year-old Faiza Mabchour, a Moroccan woman who wears a burka, on the grounds she had failed to integrate."
I would love to know the court's definition of "failed to integrate".
Does it also include things like:-
1) not taking Jews and Christians as friends
2) wanting separate dining areas
3) wanting separate swimming pools
4) wanting to overthrow democracy etc.
I would like Australia to have a similar court system. We could legally export muslims!
JL
Sounds like one to watch. The last thing we want / need is to have our favorite places declared "no go" areas for aussies!
Tommo,
The penny has dropped, but the fight is far from over. In this last week, the Daily Express deleted all articles and comments on muslims, including the building of mosques, teaching of Islam in schools etc. A worrying development.
In Ireland also about a week ago, a similar thing happened in the Independant newspaper, and now all comments have been deleted and commenting disallowed. The Independant had many articles on the weraing of veils etc., and now commenting is disabled. So much for free speech.
"France’s highest court has denied French citizenship to 32-year-old Faiza Mabchour, a Moroccan woman who wears a burka, on the grounds she had failed to integrate."
I would love to know the court's definition of "failed to integrate".
Does it also include things like:-
1) not taking Jews and Christians as friends
2) wanting separate dining areas
3) wanting separate swimming pools
4) wanting to overthrow democracy etc.
I would like Australia to have a similar court system. We could legally export muslims!
JL
Sounds like one to watch. The last thing we want / need is to have our favorite places declared "no go" areas for aussies!
Tommo,
The penny has dropped, but the fight is far from over. In this last week, the Daily Express deleted all articles and comments on muslims, including the building of mosques, teaching of Islam in schools etc. A worrying development.
In Ireland also about a week ago, a similar thing happened in the Independant newspaper, and now all comments have been deleted and commenting disallowed. The Independant had many articles on the weraing of veils etc., and now commenting is disabled. So much for free speech.
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August 03, 2008
JL....worrying indeed, I live not too far from the central coast.
Go to your local council office and check for any development proposals which may have an islamic leaning. DA proposals are required to be made public prior to approval and should be displayed on the public notice board in the office. If there is no public notice board then:
Ask at the enquiries desk if any proposals for Mosques/schools in your area have been given a DA. If what you have heard is true it will only be a matter of time before these goons start building.
If there are DA's in the pipeline notify your local paper about it as a public interest story, most will print this.
Good Luck!
Terry
Go to your local council office and check for any development proposals which may have an islamic leaning. DA proposals are required to be made public prior to approval and should be displayed on the public notice board in the office. If there is no public notice board then:
Ask at the enquiries desk if any proposals for Mosques/schools in your area have been given a DA. If what you have heard is true it will only be a matter of time before these goons start building.
If there are DA's in the pipeline notify your local paper about it as a public interest story, most will print this.
Good Luck!
Terry
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August 03, 2008
Philip,
Yes, burqas are a security risk and should be outlawed.So should covering your face in public. In some jurisdictions wearing a mask in public is outlawed, which is as it should be.
As you say, there is nothing in paradise for Muslim women - why do they do it?
Yes, burqas are a security risk and should be outlawed.So should covering your face in public. In some jurisdictions wearing a mask in public is outlawed, which is as it should be.
As you say, there is nothing in paradise for Muslim women - why do they do it?
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August 03, 2008
Thanks to all for your excellent comments. Yes, I agree that the hijab should be banned in all public schools and offices. They are a political statement, nothing to do with religion, and a challenge to our freedom and democracy.
Geoff,
All those items you listed indicate a failure to integrate.
Muslims will never integrate because they don't want to. They believe Islam is superior and that we must submit to them, so however many privileges and concessions we grant them, they will never be satisfied. This is what most of our leaders fail to understand, because they are told about Islam by Muslims, masters of taqiya.
Geoff,
All those items you listed indicate a failure to integrate.
Muslims will never integrate because they don't want to. They believe Islam is superior and that we must submit to them, so however many privileges and concessions we grant them, they will never be satisfied. This is what most of our leaders fail to understand, because they are told about Islam by Muslims, masters of taqiya.
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August 03, 2008
If you want to see something very beautiful log in to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK9PxQj6aCY
These are only warning shots. If the evil Muslims get rough, they'll never know what hit them.
These are only warning shots. If the evil Muslims get rough, they'll never know what hit them.
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August 04, 2008
Philip,
I'd love to see an anti-jihad demo against the evil Saudis here in Australia.
But I'm not holding my breath!
I'd also like to see us copy your Islamofascist awareness week on campus.
But I'm not holding my breath!
I'd like to see our government pass legisltion to stop libel tourism.
But again, I'm not holding my breath!
With Kevin Rudd at the rudder, our boat is leaking fast. Just as yours will be if you elect Obama.
By the way, I read somewhere that the Palestinians were contributing to Obama's campaidn funds. This can't be true, can it?
I'd love to see an anti-jihad demo against the evil Saudis here in Australia.
But I'm not holding my breath!
I'd also like to see us copy your Islamofascist awareness week on campus.
But I'm not holding my breath!
I'd like to see our government pass legisltion to stop libel tourism.
But again, I'm not holding my breath!
With Kevin Rudd at the rudder, our boat is leaking fast. Just as yours will be if you elect Obama.
By the way, I read somewhere that the Palestinians were contributing to Obama's campaidn funds. This can't be true, can it?
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August 06, 2008
Fighting words, Philip, but I don't know how tough you Americans will be against the Saudis if Barak Obama becomes the next president.
The Saudis should have been given their marching orders long ago and all mosques, madrassas and Arab-funded university Islamic depts closed down.
The Saudis should have been given their marching orders long ago and all mosques, madrassas and Arab-funded university Islamic depts closed down.
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August 06, 2008
My only quibble is why they granted citizenship to the husband....
I think he already held French citizenship and therefore it wold be impossible to send them both packing.
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August 06, 2008
Nemesis,
Thankyou for your advice. Our local paper had a brief write up today and I have just finished watching Today Tonight. They had Anthony Mundine interviewed on there. He stated that he intends to use it as his own private resort and a training retreat for troubled youth. Troubled Muslim youth, GREAT, thats all we need young, angry Muslim youth learning how to fight!
The residents were concerned that they will build a Mosque on the sight. Mundine stated that he could not rule out a Mosque but would have to consult the other co owners! We all know what that means! The Wyong Councillor Mr Pavier, was on there also and stated that if they did propose a Mosque that under the current zoning laws a religious structure would be permissible. GREAT.
The only hope that I have is the faith in the local residents. They have fought against major companies and WON in court. And not just one fight but several against large companies. Still it is a sad day for the Central Coast indeed.
I have written to the Wyong Councilor Mr Pavier expressing my concerns over the use of the sight and hopefully many more residents will do so also. I know the Dooralong Valley residents association will not lay down without a fight. Lets just hope they win! They are planning a meeting next Tuesday night. May God be on their side and guide them. May good win out over evil. For all our sakes.
If anyone would like to email Mr Pavier expressing their concerns his email address is:
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Thankyou for your advice. Our local paper had a brief write up today and I have just finished watching Today Tonight. They had Anthony Mundine interviewed on there. He stated that he intends to use it as his own private resort and a training retreat for troubled youth. Troubled Muslim youth, GREAT, thats all we need young, angry Muslim youth learning how to fight!
The residents were concerned that they will build a Mosque on the sight. Mundine stated that he could not rule out a Mosque but would have to consult the other co owners! We all know what that means! The Wyong Councillor Mr Pavier, was on there also and stated that if they did propose a Mosque that under the current zoning laws a religious structure would be permissible. GREAT.
The only hope that I have is the faith in the local residents. They have fought against major companies and WON in court. And not just one fight but several against large companies. Still it is a sad day for the Central Coast indeed.
I have written to the Wyong Councilor Mr Pavier expressing my concerns over the use of the sight and hopefully many more residents will do so also. I know the Dooralong Valley residents association will not lay down without a fight. Lets just hope they win! They are planning a meeting next Tuesday night. May God be on their side and guide them. May good win out over evil. For all our sakes.
If anyone would like to email Mr Pavier expressing their concerns his email address is:
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
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August 07, 2008
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