Warning: Very graphic and disturbing content!
Surprise, surprise the Age (9/7/08) does its usual article concentrating on ‘female circumcision’, particularly the most horrific variety with the ‘gosh isn’t it shocking but it’s nothing to do with Islam’.... The reality that Islamic text/laws make clitoridectomy mandatory or regard it as sunnah (supported by Mohammad) or at least a worthy practise is completely
ignored. Also ignored are the many hadiths (which dictate day-to-day life) that support the practise.
No-one claimed Islam invented clitoridectomy - the Arabs practiced it at the time of Mohammad ..but to deny that it was taken up by Islam, is promoted by Islamic religious leaders, is mostly practised by Muslims and has spread around the world with Islam just shows the power of Islam in stopping people (including UN groups) from telling the obvious truth - in the case of Islam, there IS a religious base to the practice!!! Note: May 2008 the Egyptian parliament seemed to have dropped laws making female genital mutilation illlegal in Egypt (other laws re increasing marriageable age and reporting families who beat their children were also over-ruled) (reference), though more recent reports claim clitoridectomy has been criminalised with trivial maximum sentences of up to 2 years jail and $1000 fine –AND it’s allowed in cases of ‘medical necessity!!! Conservatives maintain that Islam condones the removal of a girl’s clitoris to tame her sexual desires and condemn the amendment as a western import. (reference)
ignored. Also ignored are the many hadiths (which dictate day-to-day life) that support the practise. No-one claimed Islam invented clitoridectomy - the Arabs practiced it at the time of Mohammad ..but to deny that it was taken up by Islam, is promoted by Islamic religious leaders, is mostly practised by Muslims and has spread around the world with Islam just shows the power of Islam in stopping people (including UN groups) from telling the obvious truth - in the case of Islam, there IS a religious base to the practice!!! Note: May 2008 the Egyptian parliament seemed to have dropped laws making female genital mutilation illlegal in Egypt (other laws re increasing marriageable age and reporting families who beat their children were also over-ruled) (reference), though more recent reports claim clitoridectomy has been criminalised with trivial maximum sentences of up to 2 years jail and $1000 fine –AND it’s allowed in cases of ‘medical necessity!!! Conservatives maintain that Islam condones the removal of a girl’s clitoris to tame her sexual desires and condemn the amendment as a western import. (reference)
In a recent study in Yemen, of the 39 clerics who participated, 72 percent wanted the practice to continue for reasons of religious mandate, virginity and tradition. (Report on Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) or Female Genital Cutting (FGC)
The sad truth is: FGM is performedall around the world wherever Muslim communities are present
Clitoridectomy alone ensures a woman will never have an orgasm (this has been medically proved) ie her right to full sexual pleasure is denied!! It is the same as removing the penis. If the Islamic laws and text that support the practice are constantly hidden, they cannot be eradicated and whenever those who know Islam’s text and laws are in positions of power, they will be enforced again! Pretending it isn’t Islamic seems good but is a dangerous distortion of the truth. It is only pressure from the west and colonialism that has altered ‘Islamic’ behaviour but such western influence (leading to depravity) is resisted and can be overturned.
Some hope appeared when Wikipedia, which still tries to excuse Islam, actually had the courage to state accurately that there was a Shafi law (an important school of Islamic law) that mandated CLITORIDECTOMY. And it also daringly referred to two hadith - there are many others but hey, it’s a start!! Can we hope for more??
Some hope appeared when Wikipedia, which still tries to excuse Islam, actually had the courage to state accurately that there was a Shafi law (an important school of Islamic law) that mandated CLITORIDECTOMY. And it also daringly referred to two hadith - there are many others but hey, it’s a start!! Can we hope for more??
Islamic Law
“One of the four Sunni schools of religious law, the Shafi'i school, rules that clitoridectomy is mandatory” (Wikipedia)
Yes! The Arabic version of the law states:
"Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris (bazr in Arabic)- (this is called HufaaD). " (Reliance of the Traveller, a classical manual of Islamic sacred law in Arabic with facing English text, commentary and appendices edited and translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller (1994) p59. Note the English version falsely translates bazr as 'prepuce ' of the clitoris!!)
Sadly - Wikipedia fails to report the comment by Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi in the English 'version' who notes:"Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband." (Reliance of the Traveller p 59;)
Note: ‘sunna’ means the actions and words of Mohammad, the perfect example for all Muslims to follow!
Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi’s comments show that support for clitoridectomy is widespread across Islam, not limited to the followers of Shafi Law!
Sadly - Wikipedia also allows Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi to try the ‘it really only means trimming the clitoral hood’ line. Of course, that’s why it says ‘removal of the clitoris’ and naturally those illiterate Arab/Muslim tribes-people past and present would have been right up with the fine detail of female anatomy.
Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi’s comments show that support for clitoridectomy is widespread across Islam, not limited to the followers of Shafi Law!
Sadly - Wikipedia also allows Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi to try the ‘it really only means trimming the clitoral hood’ line. Of course, that’s why it says ‘removal of the clitoris’ and naturally those illiterate Arab/Muslim tribes-people past and present would have been right up with the fine detail of female anatomy.
Often the clitoris is cut from babies when the clitoris is enlarged due to pregnancy hormones and the ‘hood’ not visible (even the labia minora are just threads and are often cut too) or the clitoris is destroyed by applying hot sand and chemicals to it or it is grabbed and stretched out and sometimes a band applied and rolled back along the clitoral shaft to fully expose it for cutting ---- hood, yeah, right!! They’ve all just been ‘mistaken’ for 1400 years!! (until some westerner put them right??).
Wikipedia also notes:
In 1994, Egyptian Mufti Sheikh Jad Al-Hâqq 'Ali Jad Al-Hâqq issued a fatwa stating, "Circumcision is mandatory for men and for women. If the people of any village decide to abandon it, the village imam must fight against them as if they had abandoned the call to prayer." [60] The Al-Azhar University in Cairo has issued several fatwas endorsing FGC, in 1949, 1951 and 1981.
There has been ongoing endorsement of ‘circumcision’ but note the swift switching of terms - it’s not female genital mutilation, it’s just harmless female genital cutting FGC!!
Once again I will post this recent support for clitoridectomy (as in Egypt):
On 12/2/2007 Al-Arabiya TV aired 'Al-Azhar University Scholars Argue over the Legitimacy of Female Circumcision Practiced in Egypt.
The debate was between Egyptian Al-Azhar University scholars Sheikh Muhammad Al-Mussayar and Sheikh Mahmoud Ashur. The exerts are interesting because they acknowledge the hadiths related to FGM -Muhammad Al-Mussayar notes:
"All the jurisprudents, since the advent of Islam and for 14 centuries or more, are in consensus that female circumcision is permitted by Islam. But they were divided with regard to its status in shari'a. Some said that female circumcision is required by shari'a, just like male circumcision. Some said this is the mainstream practice, while others said it is a noble act. But throughout the history of Islam, nobody has ever said that performing female circumcision is a crime. There has been a religious ruling on this for 14 centuries."And this is why it is impossible to reform Islam ... even if there attempts from within they fail.
"First of all, there are reliable hadiths in Al-Bukhari and Al-Muslim which support female circumcision. The Prophet Muhammad said: 'If a circumcised woman and man have intercourse, they must undergo ablution.' Unreliable hadiths do not cancel out the reliable ones. We have unreliable hadiths regarding prayer, fasting, charity, and pilgrimage. Should we abolish prayer and charity just because some hadiths are unreliable?.."Female circumcision is no less valid just because it was practiced in Pharaonic times and in the Jahiliya. Islam accepted some customs, which were harmonious with human nature, and rejected others, which contradicted human nature." (reported by MEMRI.org 27/2/2007 and FGMnetwork )
Hadith: these apply to all (sunni) Muslims:
1) Wikipedia has the courage to note the hadith supporting the view that clitoridectomy is sunnah - Umm Atiyyah was a known clitoris cutter.
Abu-Dawud Book 41, No. 5251: Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.
(Note: The powerful Mohammad did NOT stop the procedure yet he stopped adoption so he could marry his adopted son's wife Zainab, regarded as incest by the Arabs because adopted sons were held as sons!)
Sadly – Wikipedia then allowed the usual excuse - it’s ‘weak in transmission.’ (Isn’t this an opinion?) Funny then that it’s survived 1400 years, including revisions and influenced Islamic law!! Both the ‘science’ of the hadith and this excuse are too absurd to waste time on!
2) Wikipedia also notes a hadith from the highly authentic, reliable Muslim collection:
2) Wikipedia also notes a hadith from the highly authentic, reliable Muslim collection:
Muslim book 3 No. 684: Abu Musa reported: There cropped up a difference of opinion between a group of Muhajirs ….He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to 'A'isha and sought her permission and it was granted…… I said: What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have come across one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the circumcised parts touch each other a bath becomes obligatory.
Dr Yusuf al-Qaradawi: Whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world.
Sadly it implies this is the only one - WRONG and it allows Dr. Muhammad Salim al-Awwa, Secretary General of the World Union of the Muslim Ulemas, who agrees that the hadith is authentic, to state the most absurd, convoluted, twisted lack of reason to claim that silly Aisha, when she said TWO circumcised organs (in the feminine form) she really meant one – the male one of course... (see logical alternative explanation below)
Both Wikipedia and Dr al-Awwa might like to try these which show that the circumcised parts were often referred to separately ie ‘when the circumcised part touches the circumcised part’ and that both Aisha and Malik tracing several different transmitters, refer to two separate circumcised parts and that the instruction re circumcised parts and ghusl is reported in several sets of hadith making it important! Remember, female circumcision meant cut out the clitoris in Mohammad’s time!
a) Maliks Muwatta Section: Obligation to Do Ghusl when the Two Circumcised Parts Meet
Maliks Muwatta Book 2 , Number 2.19.73: Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Said ibn al-Musayyab that Umar ibn al-Khattab and Uthman ibn Affan and A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to say, "When the circumcised part touches the circumcised part, ghusl is obligatory."
Maliks Muwatta Book 2 , Number 2.19.74: Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu'n Nadr, the mawla of Umar ibn Abdullah that Abu Salamaibn Abdar-Rahman ibn Awf related that he had asked A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, what made ghusl obligatory. She said, "Do you know what you are like, Abu Salama? You are like a chick when it hears the cocks crowing and so crows with them. When the circumcised part passes the circumcised part, ghusl is obligatory."
Maliks Muwatta Book 2 , Number 2.19.75: Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Said ibn al-Musayyab that Abu Musa al-Ashari came to A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said to her, "The disagreement of the companions in a matter which I hate to bring before you has distressed me." She said, "What is that? You did not ask your mother about it, so ask me." He said, "A man penetrates his wife, but becomes listless and does not ejaculate. "She said, "When the circumcised part passes the circumcised part ghusl is obligatory." Abu Musa added, "I shall never ask anyone about this after you."
Maliks Muwatta Book 2 , Number 2.19.77: Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar used to say, "When the circumcised part passes the circumcised part, ghusl is obligatory."
b) Hajj
Maliks Muwatta Book 20 No. 20.46.161 - very long, all about penalties for contact between a male and female during hajj –...............Malik said, "What spoils a hajj or an umra and makes sacrificing an animal and repeating the hajj necessary is the meeting of the two circumcised parts, even if there is no emission.
Above hadiths from this SITE suggest that 'circumcision' of females was normal for Muslims:
c) Tirmidi hadith:
Tirmidi hadith 166 Narrated Aisha; Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: When the circumcised parts bypass one another (i.e. have intercourse), taking of a bath is necessary. Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and I did that and then we took a bath. (from ALIM CD rom)
Logical alternative explanation: Clitoridectomy was widely practised by Arabs at the time of Mohammad; Aisha was an Arab; Mohammad had endorsed the practice of clitoridectomy when speaking to Um Attiyyah (clitoris cutter) and Aisha simply spread Mohammad’s instructions; hence it would be reasonable for Aisha (probably circumcised herself) to address people re ‘washing after dirty sex,’ to refer to the TWO circumcised organs coming into contact as this would be the normal case. Malik likewise notes the same statements coming from Umar ibn al-Khattab and Uthman ibn Affan and A'isha.
d) As for female circumcision (clitoridectomy in Mohammad’s day) being a sign of respect for women, and a hadith where the women of al-Ansar were addressed endorsing female circumcision, they are referred to in Dr al-Awwa’s paper ‘Female Circumcision Neither a sunna, nor a Sign of Respect’ – ( I own a copy but it’s nolonger available!).
Also Hadith in the Musnad by Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, where Shaddad Ibn Aws reports that the prophet said:
"Cicumcision is a sunnah for Men, MAKRUMAH for women" (MAKRUMAH can be translated as "noble deed" or "honorable") cited HERE
These show that such hadith exist—call them ‘weak’ if you like!
Shia View
Foster states that female circumcision is rumoured to be common amongst Shi'ite communities ruled by Hezbollah in Lebanon (Wikipedia)
Judaism; Christianity:
Wikipedia may note correctly that neither Judaism nor Christianity have text supporting clitoridectomy etc and notes that the only members of these two groups that carry it out are those from Africa ie from areas under considerable Arab/Islamic influence for 1400 years. Christian converts from Islam sometimes continue the practice. Old WHO reports showed much higher practice rates amongst Muslims in FGM areas than Christians but it’s now politically incorrect to note this.
Sadly- Wikipedia refers to an extremist nut case who calls himself a Christian in regard to FGC but fails to report the array of Islamic clerics that endorse the practice, in full accordance with Islamic text/laws in the Islamic world and the west. The false Christian-Muslim’ equivalence continues while hiding the full extent of Islamic involvement.
Indeed further instances of such practices are found in the Islamic world all the time and becoming more prominent in Muslim countries where the progress of Islam was slowed by colonialism eg Indonesia ( see ‘In the cut’ Sydney Mornig Herald January 13, 2004 and NYT.
Shia View
Foster states that female circumcision is rumoured to be common amongst Shi'ite communities ruled by Hezbollah in Lebanon (Wikipedia)
Judaism; Christianity:
Wikipedia may note correctly that neither Judaism nor Christianity have text supporting clitoridectomy etc and notes that the only members of these two groups that carry it out are those from Africa ie from areas under considerable Arab/Islamic influence for 1400 years. Christian converts from Islam sometimes continue the practice. Old WHO reports showed much higher practice rates amongst Muslims in FGM areas than Christians but it’s now politically incorrect to note this.
Sadly- Wikipedia refers to an extremist nut case who calls himself a Christian in regard to FGC but fails to report the array of Islamic clerics that endorse the practice, in full accordance with Islamic text/laws in the Islamic world and the west. The false Christian-Muslim’ equivalence continues while hiding the full extent of Islamic involvement.
Indeed further instances of such practices are found in the Islamic world all the time and becoming more prominent in Muslim countries where the progress of Islam was slowed by colonialism eg Indonesia ( see ‘In the cut’ Sydney Mornig Herald January 13, 2004 and NYT.
‘A cutting tradition’ where practices vary from pricking the clitoris, cutting/removing it or removing it plus labia with more destructive procedures increasing).
Note how the spread of FGM/clitoridectomy matches the spread of Islam - Africa (NOT in the south where Arab/Islam didn’t penetrate initially); Middle-East; Turkey; India; Malaysia; Indonesia...
Female Genital Mutilation in Indonesia - Let's blame it on the Black Africans!
Will we blame the Africans for all of it? – surely, given the thousands of years since the Pharaohs, it would have spread throughout Africa if we are to only blame the Pharaohs who were generally not black, and the black Africans!
Irfan Yusuf blames an old Indonesian practice! ( Does Yusuf mean liar in Arabic?) It’s practised in Australia- - will we call it an old Australian practice? Dito Europe, America?
Australia’s Mufti supports clitoridectomy - do you think he’s ignorant of Islamic text and laws?Pamela Bone (who also thought clitoridectomy wasn't part of Islamic law!) referred to an interview with Sheik Fehmi al-Imam of the Preston Mosque where she asked him about clitoridectomy and he replied:
"You probably don't need it but women in hot countries do"!!! (Melbourne Age 21/7/01 p7)
What’s the bet that the first person prosecuted for genital mutilation/clitoridectomy is an African Christian or Animist - in an effort to show it’s not Islamic!
Including other forms of genital cutting helps to fudge the relationship between Islam and clitoridectomy. Remember, when overtaken, some cultures take-on the culture of their overlords particularly if there are already some similarities (eg some African tribes) while others resist certain practises (eg initially Christian Syria resisting clitoridectomy) so culture does have an influence but in the case of Islam so does religion (religious culture!!). So, the fact that a restricted few others perform FGM/clitoridectomy/FGC (genitals have always been fascinating) and some Muslim groups don’t, does NOT mean there is not a close link between FGM/clitoridectomy and Islam.
Quiz:
If you answered Islam to all, give yourself a tick!! But remember, it’s nothing to do with Islam!!
- Which religion has a law that makes clitoridectomy obligatory?
- Which religion has a prophet who endorsed clitoridectomy?
- Which religion has hadiths that support clitoridectomy/circumcision of females
- The spread of which religion is most closely related to the spread of clitoridectomy/FGM?
- Which religion carries out most clitoridectomies the world over?
- Which religion has an Australian mufti that supports clitoridectomy?
Some articles on FGM/clitoridectomy on the site:
Female Genital Mutilation - 18/04/07
Female Genital Mutilation Part 2 - 07/06/07
Female Genital Mutilation Part 3 - 21/06/07
Does Yusuf mean liar in Arabic? Wednesday, 19 March 2008
Female Genital Mutilation Part 2 - 07/06/07
Female Genital Mutilation Part 3 - 21/06/07
Does Yusuf mean liar in Arabic? Wednesday, 19 March 2008
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Sorry to keep writing this but the denial of Islamic involvement is endless---I keep finding more Islamic text where the two separate circumcised organs are refered to showing circumcision/clitoridectomy to be common at Mohammad's time and clearly condoned---and practiced for 1400 years until western intervention and comment made some Muslims ashamed--unfortunately not ashamed enough to stop being Muslim so they go into denial and unbelieveable contortions to excuse Islam, shift the blame to others or claim 'equivalence' with others who in reality perform it at far lower rates than Muslims and without support in their religious text!! Even worse, many of those involved eg UN, some doctors either because they are Muslim, Muslim controlled, Muslim sympathizers, PC or plain ignorant also hide Islam's strong involvement in clitoridectomy!!!
Wikipedia is brave to publish that shafi law makes clitoridectomy obligatory and to show 2 hadiths---one where Mohammad endorsed the procedure (he certainly didn't stop it!!) but there is more!!!
Wikipedia is brave to publish that shafi law makes clitoridectomy obligatory and to show 2 hadiths---one where Mohammad endorsed the procedure (he certainly didn't stop it!!) but there is more!!!
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July 18, 2008
Circe....very graphic indeed! El Age needs to be taken to the cleaners for spreading lies about Islam. Maybe the editor of that ultra rag would find this post interesting reading and then again, maybe not.
Maybe the editor would like to hear from apostate female Muslims who have been forced to go through this procedure.
One thing is certain though, while we are allowing Muslim doctors to work in this country this horrendous practice will continue and will not be reported!
Terry for the APP
Maybe the editor would like to hear from apostate female Muslims who have been forced to go through this procedure.
One thing is certain though, while we are allowing Muslim doctors to work in this country this horrendous practice will continue and will not be reported!
Terry for the APP
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July 18, 2008
July 18, 2008
Circe,
A moving article with strong references, and it is abundantly clear that Islam supports this practice.
Recently I had a debate with a muslim on the Andrew Bolt blog, and here is his reply to me:-
"-female genital mutilation is not allowed in islam but some muslim cultures perform the ritual.
-concubines did exist in the islam of old but their rights were to be taken care off in there living and any other needs. In some muslim countries it still exists and their rights are not given.
-Temporary marraiges are forbidden in islam, although some people sign contracts to marry it is wrong.( A muslim man must marry and provide full support for the woman not temporary)
-Honour killings are forbidden in islam. Some people believe if a muslim leaves his religion he will be killed that is untrue in islam but some cultures do it.
- marraiges in islam are allowed once a person reaches puberty. A woman can decline or accept. Underage child who has not reached puberty is not ALLOWED to marry.
Please if you wish to clarify anything visit Islamonline.net and ask a scholar about any concern you have."
This is either taqiyya or a confused aussie muslim!
Needless to say I have not used the Islamonline reference.
A small win in France though in relation to the hijab and burkha.
http://www.theaustralian.news....03,00.html
Powerful article, Circe!
A moving article with strong references, and it is abundantly clear that Islam supports this practice.
Recently I had a debate with a muslim on the Andrew Bolt blog, and here is his reply to me:-
"-female genital mutilation is not allowed in islam but some muslim cultures perform the ritual.
-concubines did exist in the islam of old but their rights were to be taken care off in there living and any other needs. In some muslim countries it still exists and their rights are not given.
-Temporary marraiges are forbidden in islam, although some people sign contracts to marry it is wrong.( A muslim man must marry and provide full support for the woman not temporary)
-Honour killings are forbidden in islam. Some people believe if a muslim leaves his religion he will be killed that is untrue in islam but some cultures do it.
- marraiges in islam are allowed once a person reaches puberty. A woman can decline or accept. Underage child who has not reached puberty is not ALLOWED to marry.
Please if you wish to clarify anything visit Islamonline.net and ask a scholar about any concern you have."
This is either taqiyya or a confused aussie muslim!
Needless to say I have not used the Islamonline reference.
A small win in France though in relation to the hijab and burkha.
http://www.theaustralian.news....03,00.html
Powerful article, Circe!
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July 18, 2008
Simply Barbaric! And who is there to protect these little girls. Why any mother could stand by and watch their daughter go through this knowing full well themselves the agony this causes is beyond me. Disgraceful!
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July 18, 2008
"That isn't Islam." "This isn't Islam." BUT IT IS ISLAM! If female genital mutilation isn't Islam, why does Islam practice it? The truth is that Islam is pure evil, including their damnable lies. No matter how Islamists twist their words, the truth remains that Islam is pure evil. If you were a human being with feelings, you would admit it.
Islam was founded not to help mankind, but to destroy mankind. Those who can see, know this to be true. Islam is the religion of pain, the religion of depravity, the religion of cruelty, the religion of hatred, the religion of sadism, the religion of lies, the religion of war, the religion of female genital mutilation, the religion of untimely death and destruction, the religion of corruption, the religion of suppression of the weak, who are women and children. Those who can see, know this to be true. If you can see this and deny it, you are a damnable liar, an authentic Muslim, a true child of Satan/Allah, who is the god of liars, the god of cruelty, the god of depravity, the god of perverts, the god of war, the god of evil Muslims, the god of Islam.
Where Islam exists, there lies your cruel fate. Make no mistake, Islam is the cruel enemy of everyone, including the cruel enemy of Muslim women, and Muslim little girls, and Muslim little boys.
Allow me to quote a few more passages from the Muslim War Manual, the damnable, filthy, Islamic Qur'an:
"Infidels are your sworn enemies," (Sura 4 Verse 101). How true, and the evil Islamists prove it every day.
"Make war on the infidels around you," (Sura 9 Verse 123 and Sura 66 Verse 9). Dear little Muslim girls. Islam makes war against you, too. No one escapes the cruelty of Islam where Islam has the upperhand.
"Be ruthless to the infidels," (Sura 48 Verse 29). Shame on you, depraved Islam, for you are ruthless to everyone where you are in complete control.
"Fight those who believe not Allah nor the Last Day," (Sura 9 Verse 29). Cruel Islam, cruel Imams, can you not spare at least the helpless little girls? Shame, shame on you devilish Islamic Imams.
"Never be a helper to the disbeliever," (Sura 28 Verse 26). I allow you Islamic Imams to be cruel to me. But why do you have to be cruel to Islamic women and little girls? Shame on you cruel Islamic Imams!
Why can't you cast your cruelty away? Why are you so sadistic? More and more the world is learning that you evil Imams are wolves in sheep's clothing.
"Kill the disbelievers wherever you find them," (Sura 2 Verse 191). That isn't Islam? You damn right, it is Islam!!! I curse the Islamic War Manuals.
How I wish that damnable, filthy, paedophile, child molester, cruel Muhammad had never been born.
Islam was founded not to help mankind, but to destroy mankind. Those who can see, know this to be true. Islam is the religion of pain, the religion of depravity, the religion of cruelty, the religion of hatred, the religion of sadism, the religion of lies, the religion of war, the religion of female genital mutilation, the religion of untimely death and destruction, the religion of corruption, the religion of suppression of the weak, who are women and children. Those who can see, know this to be true. If you can see this and deny it, you are a damnable liar, an authentic Muslim, a true child of Satan/Allah, who is the god of liars, the god of cruelty, the god of depravity, the god of perverts, the god of war, the god of evil Muslims, the god of Islam.
Where Islam exists, there lies your cruel fate. Make no mistake, Islam is the cruel enemy of everyone, including the cruel enemy of Muslim women, and Muslim little girls, and Muslim little boys.
Allow me to quote a few more passages from the Muslim War Manual, the damnable, filthy, Islamic Qur'an:
"Infidels are your sworn enemies," (Sura 4 Verse 101). How true, and the evil Islamists prove it every day.
"Make war on the infidels around you," (Sura 9 Verse 123 and Sura 66 Verse 9). Dear little Muslim girls. Islam makes war against you, too. No one escapes the cruelty of Islam where Islam has the upperhand.
"Be ruthless to the infidels," (Sura 48 Verse 29). Shame on you, depraved Islam, for you are ruthless to everyone where you are in complete control.
"Fight those who believe not Allah nor the Last Day," (Sura 9 Verse 29). Cruel Islam, cruel Imams, can you not spare at least the helpless little girls? Shame, shame on you devilish Islamic Imams.
"Never be a helper to the disbeliever," (Sura 28 Verse 26). I allow you Islamic Imams to be cruel to me. But why do you have to be cruel to Islamic women and little girls? Shame on you cruel Islamic Imams!
Why can't you cast your cruelty away? Why are you so sadistic? More and more the world is learning that you evil Imams are wolves in sheep's clothing.
"Kill the disbelievers wherever you find them," (Sura 2 Verse 191). That isn't Islam? You damn right, it is Islam!!! I curse the Islamic War Manuals.
How I wish that damnable, filthy, paedophile, child molester, cruel Muhammad had never been born.
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July 18, 2008
It is one thing to know this depraved practice exists. It is completely different to be confronted with the pictures and evidence. Apologies to Circe and everyone else, but in a first on this website, I couldn't finish this article. The pictures and information above was too much.
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July 19, 2008
Islam is an offence to everything we in the west aspire to and hold dear.
Remove ALL Muslims from Australia, now!
It's why we have foreign aid. Those of the missionary persuasion (and I am a former, with 10 years in Asia) - convert them in their homelands, not ours.
Out of context, but the words of the Apostle Paul popped into my mind:
"Who will rid us of this body of death?"
Not now, not ever, not one inch more.
Remove ALL Muslims from Australia, now!
It's why we have foreign aid. Those of the missionary persuasion (and I am a former, with 10 years in Asia) - convert them in their homelands, not ours.
Out of context, but the words of the Apostle Paul popped into my mind:
"Who will rid us of this body of death?"
Not now, not ever, not one inch more.
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July 19, 2008
Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi, you are a genuine Muslim idiot. Did you not know that the God of Love endowed little girls with a clitoris? Since God endowed little girls with a clitoris, who gave you the right to give permission to destroy it, you cruel Muslim Imam?
You, Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi, are a cruel SOB, a Son of the Beast, who is Satan/Allah. Why do you have to listen to that cruel person, Satan/Allah? You don't fool me. Dr Yusuf, you listen because you, too, are cruel and evidently sadistic. You know as well as I do that your god, Satan/Allah is cruel and a first class torturer. Do you have to follow Satan/Allah? No, you don't. Shame, shame, shame, on you Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi.
Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi, did you not know that one of the 99 names of Satan/Allah is also known as THE BEST DECEIVER? Satan/Allah has deceived many, but you, like a fool, listened because you chose evil. Stop your foolishness and listen to the True God, Who commanded, "You shall not kill."
Also, cease listening to the paedophile, child molester, whoremonger, Muhammad. The cruel Muhammad hated women. Listen to what that genuine idiot Muhammad taught:
"A prayer is annulled by a passing woman, a dog and a monkey..." (Sahih Bukhari, 1.9.490, 493, 498). Isn't that beautiful what the woman hater Muhammad taught? Shame on that paedophile. Women to Hammy were like animals to him. No doubt you believe the same thing since Muhammad taught this. Shame on you, too, Dr Yusuf.
"Women, houses, and horses are evil omens..." (Sahih Bukhari, 7.62.30,31,32. Dr Yusuf, shame on your filthy false prophet Muhammad.
"An ass, a woman and a black dog annuls a prayer..." (Sunaan Nasai, 1.753). That evil man Muhammad should have had his dirty hinder kicked thousands of times. How he hated women!
"Either a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cuts off a prayer..." (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 2.0704). Dr, can you now see why infidels don't see Muhammad as a human being? How do expect decent people to respect that evil person Muhammad? How do you expect me or any other civilized person to respect you if you give permission to your evil children to destroy the clitoris of a little child, a gift endowed by the God of Love, the God of Christians and Jews? Shame, shame, shame on you Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi.
You, Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi, are a cruel SOB, a Son of the Beast, who is Satan/Allah. Why do you have to listen to that cruel person, Satan/Allah? You don't fool me. Dr Yusuf, you listen because you, too, are cruel and evidently sadistic. You know as well as I do that your god, Satan/Allah is cruel and a first class torturer. Do you have to follow Satan/Allah? No, you don't. Shame, shame, shame, on you Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi.
Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi, did you not know that one of the 99 names of Satan/Allah is also known as THE BEST DECEIVER? Satan/Allah has deceived many, but you, like a fool, listened because you chose evil. Stop your foolishness and listen to the True God, Who commanded, "You shall not kill."
Also, cease listening to the paedophile, child molester, whoremonger, Muhammad. The cruel Muhammad hated women. Listen to what that genuine idiot Muhammad taught:
"A prayer is annulled by a passing woman, a dog and a monkey..." (Sahih Bukhari, 1.9.490, 493, 498). Isn't that beautiful what the woman hater Muhammad taught? Shame on that paedophile. Women to Hammy were like animals to him. No doubt you believe the same thing since Muhammad taught this. Shame on you, too, Dr Yusuf.
"Women, houses, and horses are evil omens..." (Sahih Bukhari, 7.62.30,31,32. Dr Yusuf, shame on your filthy false prophet Muhammad.
"An ass, a woman and a black dog annuls a prayer..." (Sunaan Nasai, 1.753). That evil man Muhammad should have had his dirty hinder kicked thousands of times. How he hated women!
"Either a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cuts off a prayer..." (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 2.0704). Dr, can you now see why infidels don't see Muhammad as a human being? How do expect decent people to respect that evil person Muhammad? How do you expect me or any other civilized person to respect you if you give permission to your evil children to destroy the clitoris of a little child, a gift endowed by the God of Love, the God of Christians and Jews? Shame, shame, shame on you Dr Yusuf al--Quradawi.
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July 19, 2008
Ha! I tried to change this 3 months ago, provided a reputable citation, and they wouldn't let me!
"Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris"
"“One of the four Sunni schools of religious law, the Shafi'i school, rules that clitoridectomy is mandatory."
They would only say that "circumcision" is mandatory in the Shafi school. Apparently I wasn't the only one. I even went on the talk pages and argued with a bunch of brick walls that it is reprehensible to intentionally provide a false translation and to deny that clitoridectomy IS in fact required by the Shafi school. I also ratted them out to honestreporting.com.
Here's a link to ‘Female Circumcision Neither a sunna, nor a Sign of Respect’:
http://www.emro.who.int/Publications/HealthEdReligion/CircumcisionEn/Chapter3.htm
Also, does anybody understand how having a clitoris is considered 'unclean' wrt peeing, but having your labia majora sewn together where the clitoris used to be is somehow cleaner, since it precludes proper hygiene (and often results in a lifetime of abscesses, particularly in girls who are cut before they start to grow hair)? You just can't get under there to clean, and it must take all day to pee. Ugh.
And Paul, here are some more pics of Islamic evil done to little girls: http://www.geocities.com/resto...m_pics.htm
I wish there were more Americans who thought like you guys on this site, but sadly, people tend to bury their heads in the sand until the situation gets out of hand, Twin Towers or no.
"Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris"
"“One of the four Sunni schools of religious law, the Shafi'i school, rules that clitoridectomy is mandatory."
They would only say that "circumcision" is mandatory in the Shafi school. Apparently I wasn't the only one. I even went on the talk pages and argued with a bunch of brick walls that it is reprehensible to intentionally provide a false translation and to deny that clitoridectomy IS in fact required by the Shafi school. I also ratted them out to honestreporting.com.
Here's a link to ‘Female Circumcision Neither a sunna, nor a Sign of Respect’:
http://www.emro.who.int/Publications/HealthEdReligion/CircumcisionEn/Chapter3.htm
Also, does anybody understand how having a clitoris is considered 'unclean' wrt peeing, but having your labia majora sewn together where the clitoris used to be is somehow cleaner, since it precludes proper hygiene (and often results in a lifetime of abscesses, particularly in girls who are cut before they start to grow hair)? You just can't get under there to clean, and it must take all day to pee. Ugh.
And Paul, here are some more pics of Islamic evil done to little girls: http://www.geocities.com/resto...m_pics.htm
I wish there were more Americans who thought like you guys on this site, but sadly, people tend to bury their heads in the sand until the situation gets out of hand, Twin Towers or no.
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July 19, 2008
Good article on a sad subject but we have to expose this nonsense for what it is.
The Quran supports none of this since it claims to be fully detailed and complete. It claims that there should be no other source of religious law except itself. It even says what hadith is better then GOD's hadith, which is quite clear at fortelling/discounting these bogus hadith that these idiots follow.
In fact few hadith conform with the Quran, one says that Muhammad stated to record nothing of him but the Quran. Another hadith says he maintained this stance untill his death.
Further, the Quran demands that we reverence no man, so these so called scholars are false representations and have no authority to speak for true Islam or the Quran. The Quran says we were made perfect for our environment and thus these alterations unneccessary. The insanity of these people doing these barbaric things is horrific.
Until and unless these evil people are exposed for following satans religion this craziness will continue to spread. If it was common of Arabs to do this at the time of Muhammad it would follow that he incountered it. Outside of the Quran he had nothing of himself to say and his sole mission was to deliver the Quran so it says.
Good Article to get the word out on this mutilation. Cant believe mothers allow this.
I wonder though, how this differs from the Judeo-Christian circumcision of a boy that is so common and popular.
The Quran supports none of this since it claims to be fully detailed and complete. It claims that there should be no other source of religious law except itself. It even says what hadith is better then GOD's hadith, which is quite clear at fortelling/discounting these bogus hadith that these idiots follow.
In fact few hadith conform with the Quran, one says that Muhammad stated to record nothing of him but the Quran. Another hadith says he maintained this stance untill his death.
Further, the Quran demands that we reverence no man, so these so called scholars are false representations and have no authority to speak for true Islam or the Quran. The Quran says we were made perfect for our environment and thus these alterations unneccessary. The insanity of these people doing these barbaric things is horrific.
Until and unless these evil people are exposed for following satans religion this craziness will continue to spread. If it was common of Arabs to do this at the time of Muhammad it would follow that he incountered it. Outside of the Quran he had nothing of himself to say and his sole mission was to deliver the Quran so it says.
Good Article to get the word out on this mutilation. Cant believe mothers allow this.
I wonder though, how this differs from the Judeo-Christian circumcision of a boy that is so common and popular.
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July 19, 2008
DrDon and JL.....it shows how brainwashed the women are to allow their daughters to go through this procedure.
It just boggles the mind that a mother could be so innured to life outside the Quran that she would let this as, Philip says, filthy book, rule over her protective instincts.
It is an abominable practice and should be stamped out!
Terry for the APP
It just boggles the mind that a mother could be so innured to life outside the Quran that she would let this as, Philip says, filthy book, rule over her protective instincts.
It is an abominable practice and should be stamped out!
Terry for the APP
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July 19, 2008
"Dr." Don, wrt male circumcision, first, it is not a Judeo-Christian practice. It is a Jewish practice. Nowhere does he New Testament advocate circumcision. That's why most Christian men aren't cut. And there's a HUGE difference between male circumcision and female genital mutilation. Female "circumcision" is complete misnomer, and "female genital cutting" is an apologist misrepresentation of the truth. Clitoridectomy is, like Circe said, like cutting off a penis. One cannot have an organsm without a clitoris. In fact, the mythical "purely vaginal orgasm" has never been achieved in a laboratory setting. Orgasm by kegels an mental concentration has, but never by sheer vaginal stimulation. And while I've read about women who've undergone fgm in the Sudan who claimed to be able to orgasm, these women were mutilated so young that it is nearly impossible that they have any concept of what an orgasm is, particularly if they've only watched a man orgasm, since men typically aren't very expressive when they come. Vaginal intercourse without a clitoris is like sprinkles. Hear me out: there's no cake, no icing, nothing in any way worthwhile, just a useless, unappetizing accessory that can provide zero pleasure in and of itself. It's more sad than it is enjoyable, a reminder of what's missing, which is everything, sexually speaking. I personally have a full-on g-spot orgasm regardless of whether there's any vaginal stimulation because vaginal stimulation is not only unnecessary for orgasm, but to say that it's even secondary is a huge overstatement. It's nothing without a clitoris. There are plenty of nerves in the vagina, but all their endings are in the clitoris, so what little sensation there is in the vagina is destroyed by clitoridectomy. Plus, besides having a vital part of their life stolen, these women and little girls undergo a lifetime of physical pain, incurable psychological trauma, and have far, far greater rates of death in childbirth and infant mortality, as high as 52% higher for Type III and 32% higher for Type II, although the women who undergo fgm are also highly likely to be inbred and to inbreed, which also greatly increases infant mortality, so I'm a bit skeptical about those stats.
Also, the mothers who perpetuate this trauma upon their daughters are invariably mentally ill malignant narcissists, just like all real Muslims must necessarily be in order to divide the world into Muslim/kafir, Dar-al-Harb/Dar-al-Islam, and even male/female the way Islam does. They receive no love at any point in their lives from their evil, malignantly narcissistic parents, who then pimp them away to 50-year-old cousin when they're 11 for a pack of gum, and they then get nothing but isolated, abused, and reduced to parasitic sex slave baby factories. Children spend most of their time at home in the women's quarters under gender apartheid, so it's typically mommy who raises these monsters. That's how this whole hateful, evil culture comes to perpetuate itself. For a family to have any semblance of love or mental health in the Muslim world is extremely rare. My man Lloyd DeMause writes about the women who trick their daughters into being mutilated, hold them down themselves, and sing this sadistic song about it while some illiterate old skank with 3 teeth in her head slices out her genitals with a dull knife, no anaesthesia, and no antiseptic, and this is in "progressive, secular" Egypt:
"We used to be friends, but today I am the master, for I am a man. Look-I have the knife in my hand. Your clitoris, I will cut it off and throw it away for today I am a man." http://nospank.net/demause5.htm
They are truly sick, indefensible, horrible monsters. That's how this happens. And this is their own children they do this to. Imagine how much they hate us, since every failing of theirs is, according to them, the fault of reasonable, decent, loving, thinking, moral, ethical, evolved, civilized, outbred, hard-working, just people.
Also, the mothers who perpetuate this trauma upon their daughters are invariably mentally ill malignant narcissists, just like all real Muslims must necessarily be in order to divide the world into Muslim/kafir, Dar-al-Harb/Dar-al-Islam, and even male/female the way Islam does. They receive no love at any point in their lives from their evil, malignantly narcissistic parents, who then pimp them away to 50-year-old cousin when they're 11 for a pack of gum, and they then get nothing but isolated, abused, and reduced to parasitic sex slave baby factories. Children spend most of their time at home in the women's quarters under gender apartheid, so it's typically mommy who raises these monsters. That's how this whole hateful, evil culture comes to perpetuate itself. For a family to have any semblance of love or mental health in the Muslim world is extremely rare. My man Lloyd DeMause writes about the women who trick their daughters into being mutilated, hold them down themselves, and sing this sadistic song about it while some illiterate old skank with 3 teeth in her head slices out her genitals with a dull knife, no anaesthesia, and no antiseptic, and this is in "progressive, secular" Egypt:
"We used to be friends, but today I am the master, for I am a man. Look-I have the knife in my hand. Your clitoris, I will cut it off and throw it away for today I am a man." http://nospank.net/demause5.htm
They are truly sick, indefensible, horrible monsters. That's how this happens. And this is their own children they do this to. Imagine how much they hate us, since every failing of theirs is, according to them, the fault of reasonable, decent, loving, thinking, moral, ethical, evolved, civilized, outbred, hard-working, just people.
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July 20, 2008
DrDon
This is not exactly true.
The Qur’an clearly states that Muslims must follow Muhammad’s example.
This is why all Muslims must live by the sunnah (Mo’s example) and for this reason alone if Mo advised to cut then cut they will.
There are already sects, which derived from Islam, which claim what you are trying to do – maintain that the only source of all Islamic knowledge is contained in the Qur’an alone.
Well, these sects are treated harshly by the ‘true” Muslims. And most of their members must live in the West if they wish to practise what they preach.
Oh, and even if all Muslims decided to use the Qur’an their only source of wisdom it still would give them enough fire to depopulate the earth ten times over.
The Quran supports none of this since it
claims to be fully detailed and complete. It claims that there should be no other source of religious law except itself.
This is not exactly true.
The Qur’an clearly states that Muslims must follow Muhammad’s example.
7:158 Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all - (the messenger of) Him unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no God save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and His messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in His Words, and follow him that haply ye may be led aright.
This is why all Muslims must live by the sunnah (Mo’s example) and for this reason alone if Mo advised to cut then cut they will.
There are already sects, which derived from Islam, which claim what you are trying to do – maintain that the only source of all Islamic knowledge is contained in the Qur’an alone.
Well, these sects are treated harshly by the ‘true” Muslims. And most of their members must live in the West if they wish to practise what they preach.
Oh, and even if all Muslims decided to use the Qur’an their only source of wisdom it still would give them enough fire to depopulate the earth ten times over.
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July 20, 2008
What are the legal ramifications in copy and pasting this article and sending to every pro Islamic site in Australia?
I say fight fire with fire . >:(
I say fight fire with fire . >:(
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July 20, 2008
What a horrific article. In London, some Hindu women I knew whose daughters were seduced by Muslim men were terrified about this practice being performed on any granddaughters. Often the daughters barely spoke to the parents once married, as the husbands would not allow it.
You have to see what Islam does to other cultures before you can believe it. FGM is just one, but a very brutal, example.
You have to see what Islam does to other cultures before you can believe it. FGM is just one, but a very brutal, example.
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July 20, 2008
:Kaffir MB.....my guess is that, this site would eventually be shut down. The site owner could possibly find himself on charges for inciting by abetting, or in plain English, association of a site that promotes, 'racial or religious' discrimination, even though the comments may not necessariily be his own.
Until we can repeal the laws that would allow such stupidity as the above, don't even think about it!
Terry for the APP
Until we can repeal the laws that would allow such stupidity as the above, don't even think about it!
Terry for the APP
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July 20, 2008
Kaffir MB,
If you're asking about copy rights issues and redistribution of any material from this site let me make it absolutely clear - this is what we are here for.
Just use it! We are not here to collect "rewards" and author royalties, we are here for one reason only - to eliminate Islam. We have no hidden agenda.
Having said that I think that discussing anything with dedicated Islamists is just a total waste of time and energy.
They know ALL OF IT and ... THEY LOVE IT! The y invented it, this is their life support system and a system of controlling masses of ordinary Muslims.
I would not sent any materials about atrocities committed by the Nazis to Himmler and I would not recommend sending materials unveiling Islamic atrocities to Islamists.
The best you can get is silence and more deception.
Our aim is to concentrate on people who do not know much about Islam (including people born as Muslims).
Our politicians are probably a better target, although (as TerryO points out) they will only act when facing a revolt in their own electorates.
Journalists, who write positive things about Islam (they usually try to twist the issue by replacing ISLAM with Muslims - most Muslims are good - and are paid to promote Islam) this way. And so I would not expect miracles here either.
Probably handing out materials at various Interfaith gatherings would make a bit more sense but most of all just spreading the word to people you know is the best way to fight this pestilence.
Terry,
It has been tried, without much success so far.
One of the reasons why our site is not hosted in Australia.
What are the legal ramifications in copy and pasting this article and sending to every pro Islamic site in Australia?
If you're asking about copy rights issues and redistribution of any material from this site let me make it absolutely clear - this is what we are here for.
Just use it! We are not here to collect "rewards" and author royalties, we are here for one reason only - to eliminate Islam. We have no hidden agenda.
Having said that I think that discussing anything with dedicated Islamists is just a total waste of time and energy.
They know ALL OF IT and ... THEY LOVE IT! The y invented it, this is their life support system and a system of controlling masses of ordinary Muslims.
I would not sent any materials about atrocities committed by the Nazis to Himmler and I would not recommend sending materials unveiling Islamic atrocities to Islamists.
The best you can get is silence and more deception.
Our aim is to concentrate on people who do not know much about Islam (including people born as Muslims).
Our politicians are probably a better target, although (as TerryO points out) they will only act when facing a revolt in their own electorates.
Journalists, who write positive things about Islam (they usually try to twist the issue by replacing ISLAM with Muslims - most Muslims are good - and are paid to promote Islam) this way. And so I would not expect miracles here either.
Probably handing out materials at various Interfaith gatherings would make a bit more sense but most of all just spreading the word to people you know is the best way to fight this pestilence.
Terry,
..my guess is that, this site would eventually be shut down.
It has been tried, without much success so far.
One of the reasons why our site is not hosted in Australia.
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July 21, 2008
Mostly, this practice is in performed in Africa/Saudi, but is on the rise in Europe. Nothing more than vile 7th century barbarisms. The most cruel, the infections and pain these poor children must endure. And they want to be accepted as a viable part of society.........deport them all!
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July 22, 2008
Jan,
This "practice" is also extremely "popular" in Iraq, Kuwait, Emirates, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Pakistan.
This "practice" is also extremely "popular" in Iraq, Kuwait, Emirates, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Pakistan.
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July 22, 2008
Jan, this practice fllows Islam everywhere it travels. 97% of all Indonesian women are mutilated too, although usually far less harshly than, say, Sudanese women. At least that's the official story. I've learned to never take what's printed in the MSM at face value when it comes to Islam, since the truth is invariably so much darker than the "official" story. Read this and the accompanying article: http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1626/fgm/
The discussion thread has been going on for a couple of months now. It's been a very intersting discussion that I just can't seem to drop. It's mostly people from Indonesia, Bangladesh, and India in there, which is quite a different crowd to converse with, and lots of fun, especially when I get to set Muslims straight or when this 16-year-old Bengali girl named Shloka hands some old Muslim dude his ass.
The discussion thread has been going on for a couple of months now. It's been a very intersting discussion that I just can't seem to drop. It's mostly people from Indonesia, Bangladesh, and India in there, which is quite a different crowd to converse with, and lots of fun, especially when I get to set Muslims straight or when this 16-year-old Bengali girl named Shloka hands some old Muslim dude his ass.
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July 28, 2008
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