Of all the heinous crimes modern societies have witnessed, the worst one, obviously, is crime against children. The violent acts of brutality against children often leave scars in their soft minds, which often never heal in their lifetime.Islam legalizes many crimes in the name of God. If there is any ‘beauty’ in Islam, here it is. In fact this is the main reason; many condemned criminals (who otherwise are considered a burden on any civilized society) today are being attracted towards this ‘wonderful’ religion. There are many incidents where the keepers of Islam have shown merciless and cruel treatment towards children – using child suicide bombers of Palestine, training camel jockeys in Middle East and establishing Islamic schools all over the world.
Madrasahs are Islamic schools set up to study pure Islamic ethics (iarethere any?). The culprits are the religious
teachers, and the victims include helpless, innocent underage students. The sacred teacher-student relationship is given a new definition in these Islamic schools.
The following is part of the bitter experience of a 12 years old Madrasah student from Kenya who was rescued during January 2003.
teachers, and the victims include helpless, innocent underage students. The sacred teacher-student relationship is given a new definition in these Islamic schools.The following is part of the bitter experience of a 12 years old Madrasah student from Kenya who was rescued during January 2003.
"It was a terrible place, they chain both legs and both arms, sometimes hands and feet together, They beat us at lunch time, dinner time and grab both legs and hands and give us lashes on the buttocks. We sleep in chains, eat in chains, and go to the toilets in chains. Sometimes we are hooked on the roof in chains and left hanging. We have to memorize the Koran and get punished if we cannot recite the Koran in the classroom".
This is the ‘legal punishment’ for a student who cannot memorize the Koran in the Arabic language. Like wife-beating; child-beating is also religiously allowed in Islam. Though the prophet of Islam was an illiterate village idiot and child rapist, he gave some ‘valuable’ opinion on children’s upbringing and education.
According to Sunan Abu Dawud Book 2, Number 0495, Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and beat them for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separately.
The prophet was very concerned about their religious upbringing. Ayatollah Khomeini was even one step ahead of his Prophet. Khomeini said:"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby” (Paz, 2006). Like prophet, like follower. Anyway that is a different story.
Chaining incidents are comparatively rare in Bangladeshi Madrasahs, than in other backward Islamic nations. One major incident took place in Chittagong, a busy seaport-city of Bangladesh. More than 20 students were chained and subjected to inhuman torture. All of them were under the age of 14 years; some were as young as 11. One such child was forced to carry a section of a steel railroad tied to him for at least one-month continually.
Child torture incidents in Madrasahs are reported mostly in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sudan. The first two countries are safe havens for Islamic radicals, as well as having a low economy. Bangladesh is in a much better position than those countries. There are many Muslim nations where very little state-funded education is available and the Saudi-funded Islamic schools are only means of education available. With the curriculum dominated by the Wahhabi interpretation of Islam, often these Madrasahs – particularly in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, have produced exactly the same type of Jihadis (Atwan, 2006).
Child torture incidents in Madrasahs are reported mostly in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sudan. The first two countries are safe havens for Islamic radicals, as well as having a low economy. Bangladesh is in a much better position than those countries. There are many Muslim nations where very little state-funded education is available and the Saudi-funded Islamic schools are only means of education available. With the curriculum dominated by the Wahhabi interpretation of Islam, often these Madrasahs – particularly in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, have produced exactly the same type of Jihadis (Atwan, 2006).
Chaining incidents are comparatively rare in Bangladeshi Madrasahs, than in other backward Islamic nations.
In most of the Madrasahs of Pakistan, the only subject taught is the Koran, and that also in Arabic, which is a foreign language and unknown to the students. By end of 2005, there were about thirty-nine thousand registered Madrasahs in Pakistan, whereas during 1978, this number was three thousand only (O'Rourke, 2005). The number of students are estimated somewhere between eight hundred thousand to one million (Dalrymple, 2005). They are often run by religious organizations and lure young children mainly from poor families by providing free food and lodging. Some of the schools even provide intensive political and armed training. Recent estimates suggest that between 10 and 15 percent of Pakistan’s 46,700 Madrasahs (including both registered and unregistered) promote violence openly (Davis, 2002). In Taliban schools of Afghanistan, often the first word children learn to spell is “jihad”, which means “God’s path to paradise”. There are at least six specialized Madrasahs in Pakistan which regularly supply suicide bombers to the Taliban. (Al Qaeda Training Manual, 2001). During their heyday, the Taliban had banned watching television, going to school, and learning modern sciences. Even the learning of history, geography, and mathematics was totally banned and the only activities permissible were the recitation and the memorization of the Koran. Learning English was a huge crime (Sohail, 2007). Many Taliban controlled Madrasahs are sponsored from the outset by Pakistani ISI (Atwan, 2006). In Pakistan and Afghanistan, still there are some orthodox Madrassh teachers, who teaches that earth is flat and stationary and sun rotates around the earth.
In addition to the promotion of violence against non-Muslims, often there are Madrasahs which promote sectarian violence (e.g, between Shia – Sunni etc). Several anti-Shia militias such as the Sipah-i Sahaba (army of Prophet’s companion) and Lashkar–i Jhangvi (Jhangvi’s army) hailed from the extremist Deobandi Madrasahs, and maintained close ties with other terrorist organizations in Afghanistan, Kashmir and elsewhere (Nasr, 2006). The results, we are seeing everyday in Iraq, where not a single day passes without sectarian violence and killing.
During 1994, the Human Rights commission of Pakistan investigated child abuse incidents and the result of the investigation showed that in many Madrasahs, the children are often locked in iron chains, to a heavy wooden block, in groups of four or five. When one of them needs to go to toilet, the rest all need to follow him. Several children were found to have been continuously chained for up to one year. This prevents them from escaping from school, to avoid the burden of memorizing the Koran in Arabic.
During March 1996, police raided a Madrasah near Multan and rescued 64 such victims (Anon, 2004). They were held in strong ropes and chains. The religious head teacher of the Madrasah said that the students had fallen into bad habits of watching satellite television.(!) In orthodox Islamic society, watching television is a big religious taboo. The head teacher also said that, sometimes even the parents of the children instructed the teachers to chain their children. These incidents not only leave scars on their hands and feet but also in their soft minds.
In another incident in Pakistan, during September 1997, a 14 year old student, Muhammad Azam Dogar, somehow managed to escape from the Madrasah torture chamber with iron fetters still on his legs. It was not easy for him to remove the heavy iron fetters. In a desperate effort to remove them, he decided to put them on a rail track. Though he was successful to escape from the Islamic religious jail, he lost his life and was crushed to death under the on-coming train (Children in the Community and family, 2005).
The Pakistani government is aware of this kinds of heinous crimes against children. But there is hardly any effort on their part to stop this barbarism in the name of education. There are laws, which prohibit violence against children in the society. But when such crimes are committed in the name of religion, the law remains within the book only. The political parties do not want to spoil their relationship with the religious organizations that run such schools. Sometimes the influential religious parties even threaten retaliation if there is official probing and if they are closely controlled. The political force of this Madrasah system cannot be underestimated. Hence there are many cases of beating, chaining and other types of torture, which remain unknown to the outside civilized world. Even when the abuses become widely known, the authorities still appear unwilling to take significant action to protect the innocent children.
The children in Sudan are in even worse situation. There, the students are forced to drink the water, which is left from washing the dirty chalkboards (Anon, 2005) where Koranic verses are written. Students are convinced that, the holy wash-water will help them to memorize the Koran! A great way
of memorizing the Koran, indeed! Can anybody imagine, all these things happening in the 21st century? The deeply-rooted superstition within the minds of Islamic teachers will take another thousand years to change. The only requirement of a student for the purpose of passing out from the school successfully, is to be able to memorize the entire Koran. Many students take as long as nine years, whereas many others cannot complete the course and never pass out even after chaining and drinking wash-water.
Child abuse in Islamic schools is nothing new. It is traditional, but hardly few of these incidents come into the limelight. The Madrasah is a place for brainwashing young minds, just to destroy all the future possibilities of the child to do something creative, and to turn him instead into a Koranic zombie. All the humanities are nipped in the bud. Countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan and some Muslim majority parts of India, these schools are just mushrooming. They target children of poor Muslim families. Sometimes the families of the children are paid handsomely for sending their children to these schools.
Then, there are several cases of sexual abuse against children in Madrasas. Many of these teachers are hardcore paedophiles and homosexuals. Their only purpose in opening a Madrasah, is not spreading Islamic education but to lure children from poor families for sexual pleasure, by providing them with free food and lodging. There are reported incidents, where students are forced to engage in oral and anal sex regularly with their teachers. Though many helpless students succumb to such meanness, but occasionally, when a student is daring enough to reject giving such inhuman pleasure, the consequences are severe.
One horrible incident was reported on 11th December, 2004 in The Daily Times of Lahore. A 14-year-old Madrasah student, Abid Tanoli, had acid thrown on his face by his Madrasah teacher. This poor fellow lost both his eyes with more than 50 % burns on his face.The left side of his face was horribly disfigured. This incident took place on 1st J
uly 2002 in Karachi (Petit, 2004). His fault was that he rejected the sexual demands from his Madrasah teacher. The Daily Times also reported that, during the year 2004, there were a total of 500 complaints of child sex abuse in Pakistani Madrasahs, but there was hardly any successful prosecution (Khawaja, 2004). Presently, the teacher (who cannot be named for legal reasons), and two of his accomplices are in prison awaiting trial for attempted murder and rape. All three denied the charges. The fourth culprit is still absconding. These incidents are increasing in number every year.Haroon Tanoli, the father of Abid, was threatened with harsh consequences when he tried to take up his son's case with officials at the school. The school authorities initially tried to hush up the matter by offering him a cash payment of one million Pakistani rupees (£11,300), but Haroon refused to back down and took up the matter with the police (Ansari, 2004).
Haroon said to the journalist, “I despise hypocrites who sport huge beards in the name of religion and hinder the passage of justice in the name of Islam … I had a beard, and all my four sons were studying in a madrasa. However, following this incident, the first thing I did was to pull my children out of the madrasa - and shave off my beard" (Ansari, 2004).
Even when Abid was receiving medical treatment, the religious authorities pressed the hospital authority to discharge him. Haroon managed to get him admitted to a different hospital for safety reasons. The family is too poor and cannot afford an operation to save his sight. The poor boy lost his sight forever.
As per BBC report on 10th December 2004, Aamer Liaquat Hussian, a Minister in the nation’s religious affairs department is facing death threats and denunciations from Islamic clerics for his insistence that the Pakistani government must confront the sex abuse at its Madrasahs (Anderson, 2004). Hussain sticks by his point and said that he himself experienced attempted sexual abuse at a religious school when he was eight (Khawaja, 2004).
Zia Ahmed Awan, the president of ‘Madadgaar’, a joint project of LHRLA (Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aid) and UNICEF, the United Nations children's fund, said, "They [the sex scandal] are either hushed up and sorted out within the confines of school, or parents are pressurised not to report the incident to the media as it would give religion a bad name," (Khawaja, 2004).
Zia Ahmed Awan, the president of ‘Madadgaar’, a joint project of LHRLA (Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aid) and UNICEF, the United Nations children's fund, said, "They [the sex scandal] are either hushed up and sorted out within the confines of school, or parents are pressurised not to report the incident to the media as it would give religion a bad name," (Khawaja, 2004).
The Ulema, Imams and Maulanas and other religious teachers of Islam may not have advanced the cause of human knowledge by a single inch since the birth of Islam, but they should get some credit; for extending research in, and developing many ideas in the fields of torture and human exploitation in the name of religion. They can claim to have several ‘doctorates’ in this field.
Now these types of nasty incidents are being reported in United Kingdom also. In UK, there are about 1000 such Islamic schools. As many as 40% of teachers in these UK schools hit or scold children, and between 15 and 20 cases of sexual abuse occur each year (Siddiqui, 2006; Anon, 2006). Because of the fear of child abuse, many UK parents prefer home tuition instead of sending their children to Madrasahs.
One enlightened ex-Muslim lady wrote in FFI:
“My experience of Madrasahs was like any other glorifying Muhammad, chanting things we didn't understand all day long and showing absolute disrespect to Christians and the other animists. It was the thing to do”.( Rasheeda, 2004 )
Often the Madrasah students are found to be less tolerant towards other religions, less logical and blockheaded, blissfully ignorant of modern scientific developments, opposed to the social rights of women and for violent repression, prone to child abuse, hateful towards non-Muslims, for absolute theocracy and superstition. They prefer aggressive ways of resolving disputes between Muslims and non-Muslims and supporting jihad in conjunction with terrorist groups. Their proper thinking power is skilfully paralysed during the course of their studies.
After so much torture, chaining, beating and wash-water drinking; the market value of these students is rather limited, in today’s tough professional competition. With a total lack of modern education and knowledge of the latest technology, these Madrasah students are not at all useful to any modern day employer. They remain fit for doing manual labourer jobs like sweepingand garbage removing, where no education is necessary. Sometimes they are employed in the religious sectors as prayer leaders and so-called Islamic scholars or Madrasah teachers. In fact I am not exaggerating if I say that they are even unfit for conducting sophisticated terrorist operations – their uselessness is so perfect. The only jobs they are fit for in a terrorist organization, is a suicide mission, killing and torturing non-Muslims and blindly follow the instructions of their leaders.
There are schools and there are Islamic schools
The irony of the situation is that many students outside the Arab worlde, do not even know what is written in the Koran. They just recite the Koran in Arabic, but they do not understand the contents. They don’t even know what they have studied even after pursuing it for several years. Is not it bizarre?
So, all the effort to pass out from schools remains useless for all practical purposes in today’s world. They cannot blend into an advanced western nation. They are total failures in sophisticated operations, where even basic minimum technical expertise is required. Some of them even lack basic mathematical skills (Fair & Haqqani, 2005). They are blissfully ignorant of the various developments and wallow in a state of nostalgia about the glorious feudal past of militant Islam. History, if taught at all, would be Islamic history and not modern history or world history. Some students may acquire good proficiency in Urdu and Arabic languages at best, but without any other knowledge, they find themselves quite ill-equipped to transact business in present day society (Shourie, 2004).
What stuns the educated people is that they do not blame themselves or their educational-background for their misery; they just put the blame on western world. “Afghans suffer poverty because of America’s disproportionate wealth” – this is what Madrasah teachers say in Afghanistan.
This is the bottom line of Madrasah education. The basic essentials of a successful education system are never fulfilled. Education involves transference of knowledge and values accumulated by mankind from one person to another. Humanity is inseparable from education. The best process of education encourages students to ask questions, which propel them on the path of further learning. Without this, education becomes a burden. Scientific enquiry also enriches mankind with knowledge. Education improves the reasoning power of a person. Neither memorization of a book nor physical punishment helps the students. Students learn not only through reading, but also by experience, by watching others and also by observing the world in general. Unfortunately, Madrasah education lacks all of the above. True education is an important area to advance civilization further. If it is left in the hands of some semi-literates, sadists, paedophiles and homosexuals, neither education, nor civilisation occurs.
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Books, Thesis, Journals and Newspapers
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2. Atwan A. B (2006), The Secret History of Al-Qa’ida, pp 74, 152. Second edition. Clays Ltd, GB.
3. Nasr V. (2006), The Shia Revival – How conflicts within Islam will shape the future, Chapter – 5, pp 165. First Edition, Norton, London.
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5. Shourie, Arun (2004), India under threat, Part-III, The ticking bomb inside mosque and Madrasa , The Indian Express (daily newspaper) of dated 17th December, 2004.
Internet
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Another Islamic school to teach only ignorance? It's another Islamic school to teach hatred, and grave injustices that follow hatred, such as stoning women to death, calling Jews and Christians pigs and apes, hanging homosexuals by the neck, cutting off human limbs for thievery, honor killings. Oh, I almost forgot. These schools will also teach that Islam is the perfect religion, and that Muhammad was the holiest saint, and of course many more lies.
What puzzles me is, how can 73 contradictory Muslim sects be perfect? Isn't that a gasser?
What puzzles me is, how can 73 contradictory Muslim sects be perfect? Isn't that a gasser?
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April 04, 2008
Sujit:
A chilling report which begs the question:-
1) how can any country do this to their children
2) where the ???? is the United Nations?
Just another nail in the coffin of the UN.
I cringe when I think of our globe trotting PM trying to buy his way into a UN position!
I believe the books mentioned in the LiveLeak video from the UK have now been banned! A small win at least. It would be comforting if we could know that those same books wont be used in the new school proposed for Victoria.
A chilling report which begs the question:-
1) how can any country do this to their children
2) where the ???? is the United Nations?
Just another nail in the coffin of the UN.
I cringe when I think of our globe trotting PM trying to buy his way into a UN position!
I believe the books mentioned in the LiveLeak video from the UK have now been banned! A small win at least. It would be comforting if we could know that those same books wont be used in the new school proposed for Victoria.
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April 04, 2008
I suppose the new Islamic school will be teaching that Muhammad The Great, I affectionately call him Hammy for short, was the greatest astronomer of all time. Hammy taught that the Earth is flat. That hasn't been abrogated, so I suppose it is still gospel, er, I mean it is still Qur'an, at least, among the Muslims in the backward Islamic Third World Countries.
And I suppose this new Islamic school will also teach that Hammy was the greatest doctor of all time. If you recall, Hammy taught that camel piss was good as a medicinal potion. That Hammy really thought of everything, didn't he? What would the world do with more like Hammy? How many more discoveries would we have in medicine? Only wishful thinking. Sigh.
Everybody knows that Hammy was the greatest lover of all time, but did you know that Hammy was also the greatest wizard of all time? Yes, Hammy split the moon in half. I don't recall how he put it together again. Perhaps we'll have to ask one of those brilliant imams, especially one of those who never smiles, to get an answer.
And I suppose this new Islamic school will also teach that Hammy was the greatest doctor of all time. If you recall, Hammy taught that camel piss was good as a medicinal potion. That Hammy really thought of everything, didn't he? What would the world do with more like Hammy? How many more discoveries would we have in medicine? Only wishful thinking. Sigh.
Everybody knows that Hammy was the greatest lover of all time, but did you know that Hammy was also the greatest wizard of all time? Yes, Hammy split the moon in half. I don't recall how he put it together again. Perhaps we'll have to ask one of those brilliant imams, especially one of those who never smiles, to get an answer.
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April 04, 2008
Australians who gave charitably for the victims of the last tsunami may not be all that pleased to learn that many madrassahs have been opened with their donations in Indonesia.
When will the post modernist, relativist west wake up and realise that all belief systems cannot be all swept away into a private realm, and thus ignored? This is what is being done with Islam. People think ' Oh well, there are Jewish, Christian and other schools,and they keepto themselves so why not Muslim ones, and why not give money to madrassahs?"
Until the neurones start firing and people realise that the madrassaha and Islamic schools ae based on Islam which is based on a doctrine of HATRED for the notions of free will, democracy, universal human rights and hatred of 'the other' - then we will be stuck in a vicious circle wondering what has hit us.
Again, we say it loud and clear - Islam is incompatible with democracy and freedom. We invite Muslims to leave Islam and live in peace in the west abut we do not wish to go to Islam. The many who have courageously left Islam are are guides and examples of the horrors and hypocrisy of Mohammad's murderous mindset.
When will the post modernist, relativist west wake up and realise that all belief systems cannot be all swept away into a private realm, and thus ignored? This is what is being done with Islam. People think ' Oh well, there are Jewish, Christian and other schools,and they keepto themselves so why not Muslim ones, and why not give money to madrassahs?"
Until the neurones start firing and people realise that the madrassaha and Islamic schools ae based on Islam which is based on a doctrine of HATRED for the notions of free will, democracy, universal human rights and hatred of 'the other' - then we will be stuck in a vicious circle wondering what has hit us.
Again, we say it loud and clear - Islam is incompatible with democracy and freedom. We invite Muslims to leave Islam and live in peace in the west abut we do not wish to go to Islam. The many who have courageously left Islam are are guides and examples of the horrors and hypocrisy of Mohammad's murderous mindset.
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April 04, 2008
Sujit,
I found your article almost unbearably tragic, thinking of those little kids who are sent to these torture chambers, and are then treated with extreme barbarity and brainwashed to hate.
In a way, you almost feel sympathy for the products of these madrasses - how could they be anything other than full of hate as a result of this treatment.
But what angers me most is that these madrassas are allowed to proliferate under the eye of Western powers and those supposedly our allies, like Pakistan.
Do we know how many "Islamic schools" here in Australia are in fact madrassas and flouting all our enlightened guidelines for schools? I can imagine our education ministers being far too worried about offending Muslims to ever question what goes on in these places. Also, by allowing these placesd to continue unabated in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, we are promoting hatred and losing the war on terror.
I found your article almost unbearably tragic, thinking of those little kids who are sent to these torture chambers, and are then treated with extreme barbarity and brainwashed to hate.
In a way, you almost feel sympathy for the products of these madrasses - how could they be anything other than full of hate as a result of this treatment.
But what angers me most is that these madrassas are allowed to proliferate under the eye of Western powers and those supposedly our allies, like Pakistan.
Do we know how many "Islamic schools" here in Australia are in fact madrassas and flouting all our enlightened guidelines for schools? I can imagine our education ministers being far too worried about offending Muslims to ever question what goes on in these places. Also, by allowing these placesd to continue unabated in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, we are promoting hatred and losing the war on terror.
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April 04, 2008
Cassandra,
I also found this article very disturbing.
The process of de-humanizing in most cases is achieved by the Islamic mind controllers not by chains and beatings but by simple brainwashing techniques.
The tragedy is that we allow this to happen in our country and to make things worse our government supports this atrocity
I also found this article very disturbing.
The process of de-humanizing in most cases is achieved by the Islamic mind controllers not by chains and beatings but by simple brainwashing techniques.
The tragedy is that we allow this to happen in our country and to make things worse our government supports this atrocity
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April 06, 2008
Swallow,
You're right - it's the brainwashing of young children that's so horrific. We saw the results of brainwashing during the Nazi rise to power. Surely we should have learned something from that.
But it appears not. What is the saying: those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
Awful to think our government is supporting all these Islamic initiatives, interfaith etc, which are leading to this barbaric system being imposed in Australia.
When are ordinary people going to stand up and say
No more Islamic studies centres at Universities (unless they tell it like it is)
No more fake interfaith with Islamists.
No more mosques in Oz, nor Islamic schools.
We've had more than enough. Time to turn the tide.
You're right - it's the brainwashing of young children that's so horrific. We saw the results of brainwashing during the Nazi rise to power. Surely we should have learned something from that.
But it appears not. What is the saying: those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
Awful to think our government is supporting all these Islamic initiatives, interfaith etc, which are leading to this barbaric system being imposed in Australia.
When are ordinary people going to stand up and say
No more Islamic studies centres at Universities (unless they tell it like it is)
No more fake interfaith with Islamists.
No more mosques in Oz, nor Islamic schools.
We've had more than enough. Time to turn the tide.
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April 06, 2008
Thanks for this utterly distressing expose Sujit. What can we do but cry for these children and ask why the west/UN (look who's in the human rights council!!) don't stop islamic abuse!! The abuse of Palestinian children is also horrific---sexual abuse, incest, training in death and hatred but we give billions to be spent on this, not on creating homes, employment, real education, playgrounds, shops etc! The treatment of children under islam is trully horrifying and not restricted to Islamic countries. An Arabic speaking friend who worked in Islamic Britian tells of a family who realised their little daughter, sent along for islamic classes at the local mosque, was being sexually abused by the imam but when they complained they had to flee not just the area, but Britain in fear of their lives. And the imam? No doubt going on as usual. If a non-muslim religious leader abused a child it would be frontpage news but when muslims do it it's hidden-- after all paedophilia and beating children are allowed in Islamic text and law. And Islamic science--HA, HA You cannot conradict the stupid koran and allah is the anwser for everything!
PS never donate money that could in any way end up in muslim hands- it will be used to promote Islam!
PS never donate money that could in any way end up in muslim hands- it will be used to promote Islam!
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April 06, 2008
PSS. Putting hijabs on little girls is also child abuse and we allow it everyday in our schools! Try spending the day with your head wrapped in a tablecloth with just part of your face showing- a game of tennis, swimming, footy--remeber you can't take it off!
Our donations to Indonesia not only funded vile islamic schools but also the morals police who publicly whip women insufficiently covered or seen talking to a male or doing anything that some muslim male objects to ...
Our donations to Indonesia not only funded vile islamic schools but also the morals police who publicly whip women insufficiently covered or seen talking to a male or doing anything that some muslim male objects to ...
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April 06, 2008
Cass,
All Islamic schools are madrasahs.
Their curriculum includes teachin of the Qur'an and therefore we must assume that ever Islamic school teches hatred towards othe religions.
Do we know how many "Islamic schools" here in Australia are in fact madrassas and flouting all our enlightened guidelines for schools?
All Islamic schools are madrasahs.
Their curriculum includes teachin of the Qur'an and therefore we must assume that ever Islamic school teches hatred towards othe religions.
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April 06, 2008
I live in Pakistan but was lucky enough to go to a private British school and to America for university studies. We have tens of thousands of madrassas and their teachings will hold Pakistan back from progress; the madrassas educate many fold more than private schools. There are no public schools here but for madrassas, and if a boy from a poor family (and most of Paksistan is in poverty)can't afford a private school he'll go to a madrassa, where he'll be brainwashed in a 7th Century tribal education based in the Suras and Hadiths and Shariat. Those few of us who are well educated (comparatively) either leave Pakistan for greener pastures or join the corruption mill to make money off the misery of the masses, and part of that corruption mill includes appeasing the madrassas, funded by Saudi Arabia, tax dollars that end up in ministers' pockets, and local mosques. I imagine it's no different in Bangladesh and many ME countries.
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April 07, 2008
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How often in conversation with a Muslim, do they quote Spain as the crowning achievement of Islam, where Muslims, Jews and Christians lived in harmony for about 800 years?
Why do Muslims insist that Jerusalem is their Holy City?
Islam is currently passing through one of its most dynamic times since its rise fourteen hundreds years ago. This dynamic period started long before 9/11 as a fierce struggle, mainly against the west, but also against any nation or group that dares to stand in its way. Most Muslims take this resurgence phase very seriously and consider it as a decisive battle between Islam and the non-Islam, or the kufr, which Mohammed told them they would win. Even though the west, currently, is largely in denial about this makes no difference to the significance of this conflict to the whole world. 
There is a very strongly entrenched view among majority of Westerners today that the three main monotheistic religions Judaism, Christianity and Islam share one common God and therefore despite the obvious differences, the core foundation of these three religions is the same.
